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The point I believe is being kept quiet is the arrogant attitudes of so many young people who are refusing to abide by any rules. I see it all the time and although it's not easy to change their behaviour we dont seem to be doing anything much about it.
To be fair to the young, I've seen people of all ages through this with arrogant attitudes who refuse to abide by the rules. The worst, for a long time, were the elderly who stood out a mile up here as the worst offenders. Then the middle aged thought it was okay to pop round to friends houses for distanced drinks when they were not supposed to. Then it became the young. The reality is that no group is clear from blame, no group is entirely responsible.
 
The point I believe is being kept quiet is the arrogant attitudes of so many young people who are refusing to abide by any rules. I see it all the time and although it's not easy to change their behaviour we dont seem to be doing anything much about it.
I wouldn't deem it 'arrogant'! 'Selfish' - and in some cases 'ignorant' (the 'lacking in knowledge' description) would be a better description imo.
 
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Everybody (?) can use public transport? One of my buddies has just yesterday been told by his GP to shield due to some underlying conditions and historic cardiac issues. He didn't get a letter back then. He's not bothered asking previously but is thinking of going back to 'meetings' he attends.
 
To be fair to the young, I've seen people of all ages through this with arrogant attitudes who refuse to abide by the rules. The worst, for a long time, were the elderly who stood out a mile up here as the worst offenders. Then the middle aged thought it was okay to pop round to friends houses for distanced drinks when they were not supposed to. Then it became the young. The reality is that no group is clear from blame, no group is entirely responsible.
No different in so many ways from the attitude of younger cyclists to having lights on their bike - even though it is law...they either don't see the risk; can't be bothered or think it's just not cool for their bike or their personal image.
 
Are you suggesting that with all the top heavy staff the NHS have that the government has to come up with the plan to deal with the involvement in NHS matters. If that is the case what are all those Directors of the is and Directors of that there for, to fight the fire when its happened. Those that run the NHS are responsible for planning, the government is there to assist in the implementation of the plan.

When the military go to war, they don't expect the government to tell them how to fight it.

I don't expect government to tell the military how to fight...
However I do expect government to ensure the best interests of the people/electorate are maintained whilst the military are at war on our behalf...

Same for the NHS who we aspire to ensure our wellbeing/safety...
IF they are not achieving our aspirations/expectations then government should be acting, on our behalf, to see the appropriate/right people/tools are in place...
 
Lady next door is at least a band 8? NHS....works from home ALL the time. NHS leases a car for her use....she just uses it for personal use. My wife's daughter is a band 6 with Blood and Transplant and is required to have her own car and works all around this part of the country......why the heck does the admin lady get a "free" lease car (this one is an Audi, last one was a BMW I think) and my wifes daughter who is required to travel has to get her own? Seems there is some money being wasted here......
 
I wouldn't deem it 'arrogant'! 'Selfish' - and in some cases 'ignorant' (the 'lacking in knowledge' description) would be a better description imo.
'Arrogant' is the term I want to use, they have an inflated sense of their own vulnerability and self importance.
 
To be fair to the young, I've seen people of all ages through this with arrogant attitudes who refuse to abide by the rules. The worst, for a long time, were the elderly who stood out a mile up here as the worst offenders. Then the middle aged thought it was okay to pop round to friends houses for distanced drinks when they were not supposed to. Then it became the young. The reality is that no group is clear from blame, no group is entirely responsible.
Absolutely correct, all groups have a number of offenders but my personal observation is that it's so much more prevalent in the young.
 
Whilst I fully agree.. what about all groups who are moaning about masks?

One member on here being particularly vocal about it

Nothing wrong with being an “anti masker”.
I just can’t go shopping! :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

I intended on being stubborn, and I’ll always cut my nose off to spite my face. But I can go shopping when it’s coat/jacket weather to go with a snood and at night when there’s no queue. So limited options but I will avoid looking like an extra out the Mask of Zorro. Just got to do a big shop before the 24th and fill the garage freezer up.
 
Nothing wrong with being an “anti masker”.
I just can’t go shopping! :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

I intended on being stubborn, and I’ll always cut my nose off to spite my face. But I can go shopping when it’s coat/jacket weather to go with a snood and at night when there’s no queue. So limited options but I will avoid looking like an extra out the Mask of Zorro. Just got to do a big shop before the 24th and fill the garage freezer up.

If you dont want to wear a mask, you're going to hate wearing a ventilator
 
Nothing wrong with being an “anti masker”.
I just can’t go shopping! :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

I intended on being stubborn, and I’ll always cut my nose off to spite my face. But I can go shopping when it’s coat/jacket weather to go with a snood and at night when there’s no queue. So limited options but I will avoid looking like an extra out the Mask of Zorro. Just got to do a big shop before the 24th and fill the garage freezer up.
Wondering how, even if you shop quiet times, you'll feel about being the 'odd man out' or when shoppers give you the eye or ask you to put on a mask or leave the shop. Will you be apologetic, accepting and leave the shop? Or will you act as many do when asked politely to do something they don't think they should have to do?
 
Wondering how, even if you shop quiet times, you'll feel about being the 'odd man out' or when shoppers give you the eye or ask you to put on a mask or leave the shop. Will you be apologetic, accepting and leave the shop? Or will you act as many do when asked politely to do something they don't think they should have to do?

I’m allowed a face covering that covers my nose and mouth. Be that a scarf, bandana or a wrap of clingfilm. I’m just against masks as they are irritating.
It’s a choice, and it’s a choice I’ve made almost well before covid as is your choice of face covering.
 
I wore a mask for the first time while shopping yesterday. Felt a bit weird but you do get used to it quite quickly. What I hadn't expected is the amount of odd looks you get from non wearers. I guess I was guilty of that previously as well.

You also notice how few people are wearing them. I was in Sainsburys and would estimate less than 10% of shoppers had one on. Not a single member of staff was wearing one.
 
'Arrogant' is the term I want to use, they have an inflated sense of their own vulnerability and self importance.
Fair enough. That's YOUR opinion!
MINE allows them a small amount for their 'lack of experience' associated with their age. Neither are wrong!
Neither are wrong!!
 
no choice in Scotland, trouble for me is i wear glasses so everytime i do wear one i can't see where i'm going as they steam up
A couple of guys at work have 'ventilated' ones that, according to them, eliminate that problem. Presumably a bit more expensive and not sure whether that compromises their purpose (as perhaps steaming up does) but I believe that as long as they (any mask) restrict distance, then purpose has been achieved.
 
no choice in Scotland, trouble for me is i wear glasses so everytime i do wear one i can't see where i'm going as they steam up

My wife got told a work around and it helps

Pull the mask up slightly so it goes under your glasses .. held in place by the nose bit

Creates a seal that helps stop the steam
 
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