Beezerk
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It's all over Facebook, people blaming Dominic Cummings for going to the beach ?
I never thought people could be so moronic but they have surpassed my expectations.
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It's all over Facebook, people blaming Dominic Cummings for going to the beach ?
I never thought people could be so moronic but they have surpassed my expectations.
rudebhoy
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Pictures from Bournemouth beach are incredibly depressing, bound to be health consequences. Hopefully a local breakout rather than the cause of a second wave.
However you have to ask how it happened? As soon as the beach was at its safe capacity, road blocks should have been in place to stop anyone else getting there.
However you have to ask how it happened? As soon as the beach was at its safe capacity, road blocks should have been in place to stop anyone else getting there.
rulefan
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22 tons of rubbish collected from Bournemouth beach.
Reemul
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I live in Bournemouth, it's been bedlam, except for us it has not, weather has been great and normally we would have been out in the evenings paddle boarding and enjoying our beach hut at Sandbanks as a family. Instead we stayed away.
I was worried the last time it happened but we have not seen a spike in cases or an increase in deaths over the last month so maybe it is not as bad as some of us fear.
Disappointed in the local council, easy enough to close the car parks and close off roads, not much access to Sandbanks just the main road. I mean it was not like you could not see it happening. Additionally I just don't understand why travel distance has not been limited at the outset.
if we get more hot weather, pubs opening I just cannot see how it cannot even get worse, we have millions still furloughed with nothing to do. Maybe furloughing should have come with some restrictions to continue receiving it.
I was worried the last time it happened but we have not seen a spike in cases or an increase in deaths over the last month so maybe it is not as bad as some of us fear.
Disappointed in the local council, easy enough to close the car parks and close off roads, not much access to Sandbanks just the main road. I mean it was not like you could not see it happening. Additionally I just don't understand why travel distance has not been limited at the outset.
if we get more hot weather, pubs opening I just cannot see how it cannot even get worse, we have millions still furloughed with nothing to do. Maybe furloughing should have come with some restrictions to continue receiving it.
chrisd
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Dont clear the 22 tons of rubbish, that should deter people from sitting on the beach ??
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Deleted member 16999
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Before the rant, I totally agree that an individual should be completely responsible for their own actions, however, we all know that isn’t how some behave.
Hancock this morning has stated beach’s will be closed if people don’t start observing the social distancing rules! Are these Governments Ministers completely thick or just have their head buried in sand? Social Distancing has been ignored by thousands for months now and they have done nothing but relax the rules!
The severe punishment/closures should of been implemented as soon as the first reports came in.
Threatening to close beaches a week before opening the pubs etc is ridiculous, too late hancock, too late.
Hancock this morning has stated beach’s will be closed if people don’t start observing the social distancing rules! Are these Governments Ministers completely thick or just have their head buried in sand? Social Distancing has been ignored by thousands for months now and they have done nothing but relax the rules!
The severe punishment/closures should of been implemented as soon as the first reports came in.
Threatening to close beaches a week before opening the pubs etc is ridiculous, too late hancock, too late.
bobmac
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I agree.
Weren't the beaches rammed during the bank holiday and there has been no 'second wave' from then. Here's hoping
Reemul
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Yeah there is hope, bit worrying the massive increase in cases in the US and now some EU countries are seeing spikes. Just have to hope the outside helps with the spread like they think and being indoors is the bigger worry.
drdel
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A few thousand acting like morons. 60million not.
What do you expect in a 'free' society?
There have been idiots around for centuries.
We do not have to act the same!!!
What do you expect in a 'free' society?
There have been idiots around for centuries.
We do not have to act the same!!!
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Agreed with your first sentence, what we can learn from all of that, is the risk of infection is pretty low outside.
Your second sentence and no second wave happening, I hope you are right. However from previous inside spaces & events and still going on in other countries etc, inside is high risk. All the know bigger super spreader times have happened inside...
SocketRocket
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I think it's more than a few thousand.
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Used to live near beaches, and one thing I learnt quickly growing up, was never go near the main beaches, on sunny days. Far to many people in one area for my liking, go a couple of miles up/down the coast from the main beach and things get pleasant. Never moaned about it, as I don't own the beach or the area I live.
Been like that since Victorian days, would have thought people would have got used to that fact by now
(see previous post over my feelings on being outside being low risk for spread)
Been like that since Victorian days, would have thought people would have got used to that fact by now
(see previous post over my feelings on being outside being low risk for spread)
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It’s not just the beaches though, illegal raves, street parties, house parties, visits to countryside etc.Used to live near beaches, and one thing I learnt quickly growing up, was never go near the main beaches, on sunny days. Far to many people in one area for my liking, go a couple of miles up/down the coast from the main beach and things get pleasant. Never moaned about it, as I don't own the beach or the area I live.
Been like that since Victorian days, would have thought people would have got used to that fact by now
I don’t believe we are in “normal” times so I’d expect behaviour to be adjusted.
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When you have about 9 million people furloughed and a lot of self employed people/business owners not working full time either. (Yeah those figures are about correct and scary.)
It is exactly what I would expect of humans, beaches packed on a sunny day.
And to be honest purely from a virus catching it point of view, being on the beach or in the countryside as the risk of infection is low, far better being on the beach than inside having a house party or group hugging in their garden etc.
Not saying it is right as I wouldn't do it(wouldn't do it in normal times) but taking emotions out of it, the risk of a second wave from being on a beach is very low, as history has shown us.
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But if almost draconioan measures had been put in place originally and the first transgressors would of been hit hard then the message may of sunk in.
Just because we’ve always had idiots it doesn’t mean we shouldn’t try and control them.
Why bother with any measures if we are happy to make excuses for those who ignore them?
SocketRocket
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Being on the beach isnt the problem, its proximity. OK, the virus spreads less in an outdoor environment but it will spread and if people gather closely in large numbers then the risk is there. All risk taking with this virus is stupid and cannot be defended. I have to say the travel distance restrictions in the rest of the UK is a better way due to so many people not being sensible enough to be trusted.
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A big leap there, from being outside being fairly safe to what you say there.
I'm not making excuses for anyone, I am saying facts ie. beach low risk, people always goto beach when sunny, no second wave from previous hot days.
So talking about beach is a red herring in second wave coming, emotive yes but not true.
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I agree with you apart from the travel restrictions outlook, at this stage in the spread.
I know and you know, I am not going to change your opinion about beaches.
Show me the FACTS (not emotions) from the beach going, producing a 2nd wave or increasing infections considerably, prove your point and I will be happy to change my opinion tho.
Yet to see facts by anyone on the forum or anywhere to be honest, from beach going producing the 2nd wave, only seen loads of emotional talk over it.
GB72
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Taking a different approach (and yes, I do still think that there are idiots), I simply think that many have reached the limit of how long people can be locked down for. People have, in the main, been reasonably well behaved for 3 months now but, and I have some sympathy with this, some people have said that enough is enough. We cannot hide from this forever and they are getting on with their lives. I especially see this in the younger generation who do not see the virus as a direct threat but see the lockdown as more of a threat to their futures.
Lets also look at this from another point of view. I am sure many on here have gardens and, even if they do not, they have access to a golf course. Think about those that do not. Lets look at an urban family living in a flat with no garden, no outdoor space and it is 32 degrees. Would you sit inside in that. Would you head to a park. Would you head to a beach. I certainly would. How many times did I hear on the radio yesterday 'why don't they stay in their gardens', well, it may surprise some people but not everyone has one, not everyone has a home environment where it is even slightly comfortable to be in 32 degree heat.
I also maintain my concern about the local authority. I have seen councils apply a booking system for car parks (applies to many of the lakes near me). You go online and book a space in a car park. No online booking confirmation for a parking space, the police turn you away from the area. Soon calmed down as people realised that no booking meant no access.
Lets also look at this from another point of view. I am sure many on here have gardens and, even if they do not, they have access to a golf course. Think about those that do not. Lets look at an urban family living in a flat with no garden, no outdoor space and it is 32 degrees. Would you sit inside in that. Would you head to a park. Would you head to a beach. I certainly would. How many times did I hear on the radio yesterday 'why don't they stay in their gardens', well, it may surprise some people but not everyone has one, not everyone has a home environment where it is even slightly comfortable to be in 32 degree heat.
I also maintain my concern about the local authority. I have seen councils apply a booking system for car parks (applies to many of the lakes near me). You go online and book a space in a car park. No online booking confirmation for a parking space, the police turn you away from the area. Soon calmed down as people realised that no booking meant no access.
Mudball
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Got a marketing mail from Booking .com saying I should plan a holiday to the beach in the UK ... some very tempting options (not)
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