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chrisd said:
Naive to some extent. I had a pre app planning meeting with the local council about a week back ,and there was a certain amount of horse trading. They said at the very beginning that the site (a club) was extremely interesting for a development but we discussed quite a few smaller issues, not least to assure them that the future of the club was guaranteed. There was horse trading over the detail of the plan eg what we didnt want to spend money on against frills they wanted to see.

The legally bit comes when we put in the actual application
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Do you see that as something approaching 'corruption' of their role? I have no problem if they have designated an area as 'to be upgraded' to 'better' businesses that improve the overall area. But I've also seen some (housing) developments that shout 'corruption'!
I knew a guy (we used to drink at the pub across the road from where I lived) whose main income was setting up Tesco stores (of every style) and gtting through the planning process.

It seems to me that there's a 'reasonable' chunk of 'corruption' (not cash in pockets, simply desired 'style') involved in far too many proposals!
 
Can we get this thread back on track and the disgusting behaviour by Jenrick.
 
pauldj42 said:
Can we get this thread back on track and the disgusting behaviour by Jenrick.
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If its going back on track, what has Jenrick's behaviour got to do with Coronavirus? I don't doubt for one minute what he's done in the planning application stinks to high heaven and beyond but it has nothing to do with the govt's response to C-19.
 
Hobbit said:
If its going back on track, what has Jenrick's behaviour got to do with Coronavirus? I don't doubt for one minute what he's done in the planning application stinks to high heaven and beyond but it has nothing to do with the govt's response to C-19.
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He should of been sacked for breaking the lockdown, it shows a pattern.
 
pauldj42 said:
He should of been sacked for breaking the lockdown, it shows a pattern.
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Can't disagree with you there. And the reason Bournemouth beach etc is seeing the crowds is very much on the back of him and the likes of Cummings ignoring lockdown. Credibility went out of the window with the 'do as I say, not as I do' behaviour.
 
Hobbit said:
If its going back on track, what has Jenrick's behaviour got to do with Coronavirus? I don't doubt for one minute what he's done in the planning application stinks to high heaven and beyond but it has nothing to do with the govt's response to C-19.
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Come on now, you have to use Forum logic here.
Jenricks a Tory, therefore everything he is involved with is evil, Corona Virus is evil therefore he must be involved with it. The property issue is merely an excuse to mention his name and expose his evil ways even further.

I'll get me coat.
 
Foxholer said:
Do you see that as something approaching 'corruption' of their role? I have no problem if they have designated an area as 'to be upgraded' to 'better' businesses that improve the overall area. But I've also seen some (housing) developments that shout 'corruption'!
I knew a guy (we used to drink at the pub across the road from where I lived) whose main income was setting up Tesco stores (of every style) and gtting through the planning process.

It seems to me that there's a 'reasonable' chunk of 'corruption' (not cash in pockets, simply desired 'style') involved in far too many proposals!
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Yes, I do see the corruption view. I'm not sure however that you can justify the claim that there is a high level of corruption though. The Government want more and more housing and planners in Councils have to follow the Government's wishes or they will just be overruled at appeal and that really doesnt look good given the escalating cost of appeal
 
Hobbit said:
Can't disagree with you there. And the reason Bournemouth beach etc is seeing the crowds is very much on the back of him and the likes of Cummings ignoring lockdown. Credibility went out of the window with the 'do as I say, not as I do' behaviour.
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Well that and a rather large bunch of turd for brains on Bornmouth beach.
 
SocketRocket said:
Well that and a rather large bunch of turd for brains on Bornmouth beach.
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Two bars here had dancing last week - not permitted under the new normal. Both closed for 2 weeks and fined €3,000. When a govt enforces its rules, the majority do what they are supposed to do. When members of the govt show the level of arrogance to those rules that they have, what do you expect? Two wrongs don't make a right but if we're going to start calling them turd brains we should include govt and opposition MP's in that.
 
Hobbit said:
Two bars here had dancing last week - not permitted under the new normal. Both closed for 2 weeks and fined €3,000. When a govt enforces its rules, the majority do what they are supposed to do. When members of the govt show the level of arrogance to those rules that they have, what do you expect? Two wrongs don't make a right but if we're going to start calling them turd brains we should include govt and opposition MP's in that.
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Anyone who acts deliberately in a way that could spread the virus has turd brain.
 
Are we safe to assume that after the VE Day celebrations, the BLM protests, the morons visiting beaches and the relaxation of lock down that if we don't get a second wave of infections within the next couple of weeks that we won't get one and we are safe to carry on as normal?

All of the above events have been given as examples of why we will see a second wave of infections, but to date we haven't seen that uptick, and we are far enough down the line that we should have seen the result of some of them.
 
ColchesterFC said:
Are we safe to assume that after the VE Day celebrations, the BLM protests, the morons visiting beaches and the relaxation of lock down that if we don't get a second wave of infections within the next couple of weeks that we won't get one and we are safe to carry on as normal?

All of the above events have been given as examples of why we will see a second wave of infections, but to date we haven't seen that uptick, and we are far enough down the line that we should have seen the result of some of them.
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Yet, if we had all kept to guidelines, we may have been in a far better state by now. So many excuses to not conform. SMH.
 
ColchesterFC said:
Are we safe to assume that after the VE Day celebrations, the BLM protests, the morons visiting beaches and the relaxation of lock down that if we don't get a second wave of infections within the next couple of weeks that we won't get one and we are safe to carry on as normal?

All of the above events have been given as examples of why we will see a second wave of infections, but to date we haven't seen that uptick, and we are far enough down the line that we should have seen the result of some of them.
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Most of Spain unlocked on Monday. Yesterday 4 of the semi-autonomous regions were knocked back two phases and 7 other regions are seeing a spike. New cases have been doubling every day for almost a week.

I don’t think the U.K. is populated by super beings, and I do think it will see a second wave.
 
Not sure I see the logic in the Health sec only 'threatening' to close beaches, just close them. The behaviour yesterday shows that the public can’t self-police this kind of thing. Why risk a repeat this weekend
It'll also serve as a timely warning ahead of the pubs opening
 
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