Old Skier
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Head of 6th form colleges said it was the right decision but you obviously know better.
Shame the story of GCSEs became a non story.
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Shame the story of GCSEs became a non story.
Beezerk
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Weird, I was under the impression it was the Pearson exam board who have pulled the results.
Awaits being tagged as a Tory sympathiser ??
That is exactly how it is being reported this morning. The exam board, just the one, want longer to go through the results. GCSE results coming out as normal.
AmandaJR
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My understanding is the change in GCSE and A Level grading (not being downgraded) has meant that the vocational qualifications need to be sure they are doing the equivalent so as to not disadvantage their students.
All very last minute which isn't ideal but rather they did that than not.
All very last minute which isn't ideal but rather they did that than not.
Old Skier
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Dont bust SILH bubble. The whole BTEC fiasco occurred as reported and ignored by SILH was due to the over generous grades being given by teachers in the A and GCSEs as reported by many commentators in the media.
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You’re right about silh, but the Pearson BTEC statement says the following:
“Because BTEC results are largely based on continuous teacher-assessed projects and assignments, grade outcomes have been generally consistent with teacher and learner expectations. However, we have become concerned about unfairness, including consistency with the approaches now being used for GCSE and A Levels.
This means we will now be removing Pearson calculated grades and allowing higher outcomes for the externally examined units so they are in line with those assessed by teachers. We believe this is now a more trusted source of evidence of learner attainment.”
Isn’t the bit I’ve highlighted supporting the teachers rather than accussing them of being over generous?
Ethan
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could be a job for Boris's Corruption champion to look into
Certain to be someone of unimpeachable integrity and independence.
We will only know the answer to this when the GCSE and A level grades are released in full and compared to previous years. The results are going to be higher than any other year, the only question is by how much? If they are totally out of sync with past years, how much more will trigger that feeling I don't know, then the support for teachers may reduce.
Pearson have to up their grading otherwise B-Tec students will miss out compared to the GCSE students.
GCSE are up across the board around 9% apparently, just seen that.
SwingsitlikeHogan
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You are quite right - just as well we have the government we have to sort it all out
SwingsitlikeHogan
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...indeed - just as well that neither the education secretary nor the schools minister have oversight responsibilities for any of the examination boards or the schools and so are well positioned to take independent but firm and decisive action.
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Totally agree, just wonder why some are prepared straight away to “bash” teachers.
Lot’s of things that have happened this year are down to the pandemic, strange how it’s only used by some when it suits their argument.
I suspect what happened is that the teachers unions went a bit holier than thou in their defence of teachers and that got peoples backs up. Instead of a rational discussion you then get swinging extremes. The reality is that teachers have over estimated but the correction was an unfair one. This is the best of a bad job. Give out the marks, move on to next year.
SocketRocket
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Bit like taking your driving test with your Mum ?
of course, its not like it will be her husband or anything
It is human nature, particularly as they and schools get judged by results so much now. Equally, a child who has been a solid C throughout but might on their best day ever get a B. How many will have estimated B and how many went C? To think this didn't happen is naive, to think every student got over marked is just as wrong. As I said, best of a bad job.
Beezerk
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I heard a teacher on the radio last week who made a valid point re marking some students up. Let's say he has 20 A mark students, maybe a handful will do badly in the exam for a variety of reasons, he can't predict which ones will fall short so he has to predict they all get A's as that is what their course work says they will achieve.
Another point slightly getting on my tats, it's isn't teachers predictions as such, it is the centre of learning predictions,they take the teachers comments and adjust as they see fit. It may go through two or three stages from teacher giving predictions to the centre of learning giving their final results.
Another point slightly getting on my tats, it's isn't teachers predictions as such, it is the centre of learning predictions,they take the teachers comments and adjust as they see fit. It may go through two or three stages from teacher giving predictions to the centre of learning giving their final results.
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I’d expect any Union to support their members, but let’s be honest, this situation wasn’t created by the teachers, 99% of those teachers are the same ones who have been in the schools for years and nobody really cared about whether they over graded or under graded unless it affected their child.
This year the authorities have had to make drastic decisions and have gotten some wrong. Rather than hold their hands up and have the discussion (you mention) months ago we’ve had uturns and delays and then at times they’ve looked to shift the blame.
If you push people in any job and question their integrity, they are going to come out swinging.
Fade and Die
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I 100% agree, my son is bright (but a touch lazy) throughout his secondary schooling teachers would say “he’s currently at about 6/7 but if he pushes himself he can get 7/8/9s”
Results out today, he got 7/8s on every subject. Now don’t get me wrong, we are delighted for him, and have said he now has to “prove” them results with his A levels, but obviously if exams had been sat he would have excelled in some subjects, and been disappointed with others. Every year this is what happens. I don’t have an answer on how they could have done it fairer but relying on teachers is not ideal.... In 1982 I got a CSE grade 2 in Art. When we walked around the Art dept looking at coursework 2 pieces on my table were not mine! ?
SwingsitlikeHogan
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Pity Williamson was forewarned. Bit strange then that he seemed 'surprised' when he 'discovered' the scale of the problem after the results were released,
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/gavin-williamson-was-warned-about-risk-of-exam-fiasco-w00fhr0tk
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Part of the blame for the situation schools are now in is the fact successive governments have changed so much, tests at earlier age, OFSTED, curriculum changes etc etc.
Add to that societies expectations of wanting “little jonny” to go to uni rather than get a trade etc and we’ve become a results based Country and imo, in the wrong areas.
Add to that societies expectations of wanting “little jonny” to go to uni rather than get a trade etc and we’ve become a results based Country and imo, in the wrong areas.
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