Coronavirus - political views - supporting or otherwise...

[Lord Tyrion]

I think an Independent Scotland would have closely followed Irish formula.

It has been following its own formula throughout. Why did it not follow Ireland from the beginning?

 

[rulefan]

Has anyone noticed that London or England is not the UK.

Nor is Scotland.

 

[rulefan]

The actions taken (or not taken) by the devolved authorities is one thing. That the major financial cost of the support to these devolved bodies is backed by the whole UK is another.
If staff in Scotland are unable to return to work at the same time as in England, the furlough cost is paid by all of us.

 

[Beezerk]

The actions taken (or not taken) by the devolved authorities is one thing. That the major financial cost of the support to these devolved bodies is backed by the whole UK is another.
If staff in Scotland are unable to return to work at the same time as in England, the furlough cost is paid by all of us.

That was sort of my colleagues point, but as I know very little of the financial partnership between the UK countries I couldn't really comment on it.

 

[GB72]

That was sort of my colleagues point, but as I know very little of the financial partnership between the UK countries I couldn't really comment on it.

Agree, not an area that I am familiar with as well. Like the request today for the Scottish parliament to have increased borrowing powers. If agreed, is that debt serviced by the UK as a whole or funded by Scottish resources.

 

[rulefan]

Agree, not an area that I am familiar with as well. Like the request today for the Scottish parliament to have increased borrowing powers. If agreed, is that debt serviced by the UK as a whole or funded by Scottish resources.

They can borrow extra capital up to £450M I think from the UK Government but service it through their own resources unless the UK increases the capital block grant.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

ah. The magical EU that fully supported the big outbreaks in Spain and Italy as the countries flared up first - you have to remind us how well this worked?

...at least your 'magical' EU would have been able to offer an independent Scotland tariff free access across all EU countries for it goods and services as Scotland would have been struggling to get back on it's feet.

Meanwhile a good old independent England (plus Wales and a confused NI) would have been striking deals to sell such as Penguin biscuits to such as Australia...apparently - whilst most probably faced with tariffs on goods and services to and from Scotland and the rest of the EU. Excellent. Just what we voted for.

 

[Mudball]

Where does it say they aren't getting the cover they require?

Applications are being deferred rather than refused from those who are still suffering from the virus but surely that is to be expected.

It is a well crafted formal line hence it is written that way... on the frontline, GPs without insurance cannot work irrespective of it being absent or deferred. The insurance cos are either not renewing or jacking up premium. The BMA's response was therefore wide ranging. At some point, i hope they name and shame the insurance cos ... Talk to your GP for more clarificiations

 

[Hobbit]

...at least your 'magical' EU would have been able to offer an independent Scotland tariff free access across all EU countries for it goods and services as Scotland would have been struggling to get back on it's feet.

Meanwhile a good old independent England (plus Wales and a confused NI) would have been striking deals to sell such as Penguin biscuits to such as Australia...apparently - whilst most probably faced with tariffs on goods and services to and from Scotland and the rest of the EU. Excellent. Just what we voted for.

I thought tariff free access still exists.... is it Jan 1st already? Wow, what a year 2020 was...

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I thought tariff free access still exists.... is it Jan 1st already? Wow, what a year 2020 was...

Indeed - but the pandemic ain't over yet - with the virus likely to remain prevalent in the community until Spring 2021 according to Sir Patrick - and by then we'll be well and truly out of the transition period with that easiest of all free trade deals (see Dr L Fox) firmly in place.

But Scotland isn't independent - and so conjectures on how well or no an indy Scotland might have coped going into this pandemic are as irrelevant as conjectures on how an indy Scot would fare coming out of it.

 

[Hobbit]

Indeed - but the pandemic ain't over yet - with the virus likely to remain prevalent in the community until Spring 2021 according to Sir Patrick - and by then we'll be well and truly out of the transition period with that easiest of all free trade deals (see Dr L Fox) firmly in place.

But Scotland isn't independent - and so conjectures on how well or no an indy Scotland might have coped going into this pandemic are as irrelevant as conjectures on how an indy Scot would fare coming out of it.

BTW, the IMF, which as you know isn't a UK/Tory mouthpiece, has just announced that Spain and Italy will fair worse than the UK as they struggle to recover... just saying, for a friend. Care to spin that one too?

 

[Deleted member 18588]

It is a well crafted formal line hence it is written that way... on the frontline, GPs without insurance cannot work irrespective of it being absent or deferred. The insurance cos are either not renewing or jacking up premium. The BMA's response was therefore wide ranging. At some point, i hope they name and shame the insurance cos ... Talk to your GP for more clarificiations

BS.
Life assurance premiums do not increase as with very few exceptions they are not annually renewable contracts. The premium is, therefore, set at outset.

So again I ask what policies are doctors being denied?

If anyone of us applies for a new policy and we are either suffering from a disease such as coronavirus or still affected by it life assurance companies will either defer a decision or may offer cover at an increased premium.

But I repeat this would be for only new applications and there would be no effect upon existing policies.

 

[ColchesterFC]

...at least your 'magical' EU would have been able to offer an independent Scotland tariff free access across all EU countries for it goods and services as Scotland would have been struggling to get back on it's feet.

Meanwhile a good old independent England (plus Wales and a confused NI) would have been striking deals to sell such as Penguin biscuits to such as Australia...apparently - whilst most probably faced with tariffs on goods and services to and from Scotland and the rest of the EU. Excellent. Just what we voted for.

But Scotland's trade with the rest of the UK is four times their trade with the EU. An independent Scotland would have been facing tariffs on all of those goods they were wanting to sell to rUK.

 

[Mudball]

BS.
Life assurance premiums do not increase as with very few exceptions they are not annually renewable contracts. The premium is, therefore, set at outset.

So again I ask what policies are doctors being denied?

If anyone of us applies for a new policy and we are either suffering from a disease such as coronavirus or still affected by it life assurance companies will either defer a decision or may offer cover at an increased premium.

But I repeat this would be for only new applications and there would be no effect upon existing policies.

These are renewals...

 

[Deleted member 18588]

These are renewals...

As I said life assurance does NOT renew.

You really should check facts before posting inflammatory nonsense.

Just read the link you posted.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

The actions taken (or not taken) by the devolved authorities is one thing. That the major financial cost of the support to these devolved bodies is backed by the whole UK is another.
If staff in Scotland are unable to return to work at the same time as in England, the furlough cost is paid by all of us.

Not true.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

It has been following its own formula throughout. Why did it not follow Ireland from the beginning?

In the early stages it did.

 

[Deleted member 18588]

In the early stages it did.

In what way?

 

[Lord Tyrion]

In the early stages it did.

So why didn't it continue to do so? I don't understand why a lack of independence prevented taking the same line when Holyrood is leading the Scottish response. Westminster has not imposed its rules on Scotland during this, it's decisions are it's own.

 

[rulefan]

As I said life assurance does NOT renew.

Mine does