Coronavirus - political views - supporting or otherwise...

[Doon frae Troon]

The only reason the chancellor comes across well imo is because he’s saying what the majority want to hear.

Perhaps it is because we can actually understand what he says. Clear concise diction and instructions, spoken with confidence and conviction

The others mumble and bumble and err and um with little or no confidence and even in some cases fear.
The Home secretary seems to have everything written down in front of her and when someone asks a non conforming question she looks like a 5th former addressing a classroom.
How they ever got to where they are beggers belief.

Homer....that is their job, that is the core part of their being and why they were elected.
If they cannot communicate they chose a wrong career.

 

[bluewolf]

Not sure, could be wrong, anyone has said that.

But a balanced commentary will always be more respected than a one-sided one, irrespective of a persons political leanings.

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But who decides what a balanced commentary is?

If you ask everyone on this forum, then I’m pretty sure that the vast majority believe that they occupy the centre ground of British politics. The past 4 years on this forum would suggest that this simply can’t be true.

So, if a large number of people can’t even fathom where they stand politically, then how can they understand what a balanced viewpoint is?

 

[SocketRocket]

But who decides what a balanced commentary is?

If you ask everyone on this forum, then I’m pretty sure that the vast majority believe that they occupy the centre ground of British politics. The past 4 years on this forum would suggest that this simply can’t be true.

So, if a large number of people can’t even fathom where they stand politically, then how can they understand what a balanced viewpoint is?

Most views are not that far apart, I would suggest the majority fall somewhere between centre left and centre right. Many of us are guilty of suggesting a post is left or right wing when they rarely are, the terms tend to be a reaction to someone using an opposing political view.

Mea culpa

 

[bluewolf]

Most views are not that far apart, I would suggest the majority fall somewhere between centre left and centre right. Many of us are guilty of suggesting a post is left or right wing when they rarely are, the terms tend to be a reaction to someone using an opposing political view.

Mea culpa

It would be interesting to poll the forum to find out where people think they stand. I suspect some of us would be very surprised by the results.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

My point is there are some that seem to simply criticise the ministers (especially at briefings) and their own agenda has been clear to see. I'll leave it there but aside from that and although it's clearly not coming over I am agreeing with a lot of your points

Indeed it is. But they do have a habit of making it easy to wonder what they are doing...

However as someone who tends to be sensitive to such things, I have to be careful. And so just because the government has decided against trying to get primary schools open for all pupils before the summer break, I recognise that they have not done a u-turn on their return to school plans.

Indeed as Johnson insisted today at PMQs when accused of such a u-turn by KS, Johnson was absolutely correct in insisting the government had not done so; that they were sticking to their plan of 11th May. How so? Well the return-to-school for all primary pupils was just an "ambition". Circumstances mean they haven't been able to achieve that ambition.

Step two –Reception, Year 1 and Year 6 return to school on 1 June. From 15 June, schools will provide face-to-face contact time for years 10 and 12 who have key exams the following year.

The government has also said that its "ambition" that all primary school children will return to school before the summer for a month, if feasible. 

I don't know what's happened for the year 10 to 12s - maybe that's still happening. And on the April 19th plan to provide 230,000 laptops to disadvantaged children? - 100,000 provided already apparently and so going to plan?

Though I do wish that Johnson would stop trying to show how clever he is by using words and phrases that the majority of us either don't understand or consider to be flummery (he's got me doing it... )

 

[huds1475]

I believe it was in the post I was replying to

Ah, OK.

I've read that sentence, in the post you refer to, a few times now and read it as...

"Would Labour voters be as vocally critical if their party were making the same mistakes"

If that's the question then one could look at the response of the majority of Tory voters to get an idea. But we'll never truly know.

Of course there are always outliers

 

[huds1475]

balanced commentary is?

If you ask everyone on this forum, then I’m pretty sure that the vast majority believe that they occupy the centre ground of British politics. The past 4 years on this forum would suggest that this simply can’t be true.

So, if a large number of people can’t even fathom where they stand politically, then how can they understand what a balanced viewpoint is?

I would suggest most adults, if they are honest with themselves, can see balance where presented.

 

[bluewolf]

I would suggest most adults, if they are honest with themselves, can see balance where presented.

I would suggest you spend a bit more time on this forum and disabuse yourself of such opinions bud ??

 

[huds1475]

I would suggest you spend a bit more time on this forum and disabuse yourself of such opinions bud ??

Lol.

I spend too much as it is.

We could do videos of our golf swings to illustrate the difference between balanced and unbalanced.

Obviously I'll be the latter ?

 

[SocketRocket]

It would be interesting to poll the forum to find out where people think they stand. I suspect some of us would be very surprised by the results.

Yes, I agree. Many would think the majority are either related to Gengis Khan or Mau Tse-Tung.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

I wonder what the world would think if current Parliamentary voting was streamed world wide.

 

[Foxholer]

Or Samuel Johnson or Mark Twain or ?

Indeed, I was always under the impression that it was Mark Twain, but my hurried 'instant' reference pointed to Abe.

 

[Deleted member 21258]

On my balance, I thought lockdown was being eased to quickly.

However with the daily infections still dropping fairly 'fast', I am fairly happy to admit I think I was wrong(thankfully grateful to be proved wrong). Along with many EU countries seeing the same trends.

Its dropping even in the face of people and media saying VE day, bank holiday, packed beaches etc, which I thought was an over reaction.

Does anyone still feel that the lockdown should not have been eased so quickly ? or is still being eased to quickly ?

 

[Hacker Khan]

 

[larmen]

I would have thought that in a couple of these pictures he would be running in teh other direction, away from the bus.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

This change to day (well from sat) is pathetically small

One of My colleagues did this from day one with her bf who is a police officer he didn't see how it was any different from them living together as they both lived alone

So single grandparents can go see their loved ones...

Loophole already surely .. get one grandparent to move in.. the other can then visit as they live alone

Just do the proper bubbles set out in the 52 page document a month ago

We are apparently meeting the targets etc

Proper 2 household bubbles

 

[bluewolf]

Lol.

I spend too much as it is.

We could do videos of our golf swings to illustrate the difference between balanced and unbalanced.

Obviously I'll be the latter ?

I was trying to remember the dodgy swing tip I gave you a few years ago at Wallasey. Wasn’t particularly PC but I can’t remember what it was ?

 

[huds1475]

I was trying to remember the dodgy swing tip I gave you a few years ago at Wallasey. Wasn’t particularly PC but I can’t remember what it was ?

Take up fishing?

 

[bluewolf]

Take up fishing?

Never mate. You’re too good to quit and go maggot drowning

 

[SocketRocket]

This change to day (well from sat) is pathetically small

One of My colleagues did this from day one with her bf who is a police officer he didn't see how it was any different from them living together as they both lived alone

So single grandparents can go see their loved ones...

Loophole already surely .. get one grandparent to move in.. the other can then visit as they live alone

Just do the proper bubbles set out in the 52 page document a month ago

We are apparently meeting the targets etc

Proper 2 household bubbles

They did explain the infection rates and 'R' level are too high at the moment for relaxing further.
Of course its possible to bend the rules but that's a matter for our own conscience.