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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

They are still a mandatory requirement when taking your driving test unless you are already exempt and have stated this on when you apply.
No mask or official prenotification of exemption - No test.
 
They are still a mandatory requirement when taking your driving test unless you are already exempt and have stated this on when you apply.
No mask or official prenotification of exemption - No test.
Can you get a convertible car for instructions? Might be the coolest driving instructor around.
 
When I say Covid Deniers I include the cohort who propagate the belief it's all over and we need to just Get on with it or live with it' there are a number of this club on this forum who dismiss the evidence to suit their agenda.
So whats your alternative? On previous evidence we would need to stay locked down forever, and even then it would sill come back if we dared venture back out into public as it has done each time we've been locked down so far! Its nothing to do with an agenda, its to do with realising we can't stop this, just as we can't stop a cold or the flu, and learning how to live with it with the least risk possible. If you want to hide away and hope it goes away thats your choice, good luck to you. Me? I want to get on with my life.
 
So whats your alternative? On previous evidence we would need to stay locked down forever, and even then it would sill come back if we dared venture back out into public as it has done each time we've been locked down so far! Its nothing to do with an agenda, its to do with realising we can't stop this, just as we can't stop a cold or the flu, and learning how to live with it with the least risk possible. If you want to hide away and hope it goes away thats your choice, good luck to you. Me? I want to get on with my life.

Nobody of any relevance has suggested that lock down, such as it was, would last forever. Happy to be corrected on that. What is this evidence you speak of?

So people who complain in those terms are either not listening to what is said or are knowingly telling porkies and should be regarded as suspected deniers.

Every reasonable public health expert has talked about reaching a place when the population immunity vs Covid risk will be such that few measures are no longer needed and vaccination may only be needed for the elderly or vulnerable.

So the question is when have we reached that time? Many experts think that we are close but not quite there and it would be a shame to blow it now so close to crossing the line. Take a look at current death rates in Israel and ask yourself if you are so sure it is all over here too.
 
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So whats your alternative? On previous evidence we would need to stay locked down forever, and even then it would sill come back if we dared venture back out into public as it has done each time we've been locked down so far! Its nothing to do with an agenda, its to do with realising we can't stop this, just as we can't stop a cold or the flu, and learning how to live with it with the least risk possible. If you want to hide away and hope it goes away thats your choice, good luck to you. Me? I want to get on with my life.
The highlighted bold bit is the exaggerated reply always made when someone suggests masks wearing in shops and on public transport is a sensible precaution.
No one has suggested it's 'for ever' have they. We can't stop this completely but it can be reduced to more manageable levels given a little more time, is that demanding too much from your liberties.
 
Never been a Pib lover ? I do keep away from Pubs as well, unnecessary risky places at this time.

Maybe you could clarify to us exactly why you wont wear a mask, it's not asking much of you and you seem to be dodging the question.

ffs you do not give. I do not have to justify anything but have said repeatedly: a. i am allowed by law and b. the risks are low and i deem them ok. End of. back in your box and stop being so utterly moralistic and judgemental about people doing things they are entitled to. And as said, stay away from the pub, entertainment industry and golf clubhouses - as they are almost entirely mask free zones
 
Nobody of any relevance has suggested that lock down, such as it was, would last forever. Happy to be corrected on that. What is this evidence you speak of?

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You've possibly taken me a bit too literally here, the evidence is that after 3 lock downs, social distancing, mask wearing, hand cleaning, constant quarantining etc etc it has just come roaring back each time.
I'm as far from a denier as you can get, I continue to wear a mask in a busy place, however my (non expert) opinion is that we are never getting rid of this, so all we can realistically do is get jabbed and get on with it, there is too much collateral damage now happening
 
The highlighted bold bit is the exaggerated reply always made when someone suggests masks wearing in shops and on public transport is a sensible precaution.
No one has suggested it's 'for ever' have they. We can't stop this completely but it can be reduced to more manageable levels given a little more time, is that demanding too much from your liberties.
Nothing to do with my 'liberties', you seem to think I'm some kind of covid denying youtube idiot. See my reply to Ethan.
 
ffs you do not give. I do not have to justify anything but have said repeatedly: a. i am allowed by law and b. the risks are low and i deem them ok. End of. back in your box and stop being so utterly moralistic and judgemental about people doing things they are entitled to. And as said, stay away from the pub, entertainment industry and golf clubhouses - as they are almost entirely mask free zones
I've already explained to you that I'm not going to pubs at the moment. You are entitled to do as you see fit but don't expect people to agree with you. If you don't want your views questioned then don't post them. Simple.
 
Nobody of any relevance has suggested that lock down, such as it was, would last forever. Happy to be corrected on that. What is this evidence you speak of?

So people who complain in those terms are either not listening to what is said or are knowingly telling porkies and should be regarded as suspected deniers.

Every reasonable public health expert has talked about reaching a place when the population immunity vs Covid risk will be such that few measures are no longer needed and vaccination may only be needed for the elderly or vulnerable.

So the question is when have we reached that time? Many experts think that we are close but not quite there and it would be a shame to blow it now so close to crossing the line. Take a look at current death rates in Israel and ask yourself if you are so sure it is all over here too.


With a case fatality rate in the U.K. of 0.89% and the average age of people that have died of Covid being 83 you can see why a lot of people consider the “danger” has passed? Especially if you are triple jabbed. A lot of people are suffering with Covid fatigue, it’s been relentless for two years and for the vast majority the disease was never going to be a threat to them.
 
Barring a broken rubber stamp on Tues, mandatory mask wearing outdoors is scheduled to end on Thursday. This against a backdrop of high infection rates but almost zero deaths - Omicron not to be feared?
Well, I am permanently tired for 2 weeks now. I am not dead, but not really great either. Boosted fairly early ion the cycle.
Of course, I can't really say which variant, but omicron seems likely.
 
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