SocketRocket
Ryder Cup Winner
But if I agreed with them we would both be wrong.You might do well to follow your own advice.
Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?
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D-S
Well-known member
I continue to wear a mask in retailers whether they request it or not.
However my issues are with supermarkets who request mask wearing but have many employees wandering about the shop maskless, surely they are key components on minimising spread and, if nothing else should be setting an example. In light of this my scowling behind a mask at the maskless seems pointless.
On a more serious note a couple of close family members who recently contracted COVID (thankfully both triple jabbed and had less symptoms than a mild cold - both above 70), caught the virus from in one case going to an outpatient clinic where everyone was masked and negative tested and in the other from visiting a fully masked supermarket once. So this leads me to question the efficacy of masks but I will continue to wear one - I hope I am not just virtue signalling.
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However my issues are with supermarkets who request mask wearing but have many employees wandering about the shop maskless, surely they are key components on minimising spread and, if nothing else should be setting an example. In light of this my scowling behind a mask at the maskless seems pointless.
On a more serious note a couple of close family members who recently contracted COVID (thankfully both triple jabbed and had less symptoms than a mild cold - both above 70), caught the virus from in one case going to an outpatient clinic where everyone was masked and negative tested and in the other from visiting a fully masked supermarket once. So this leads me to question the efficacy of masks but I will continue to wear one - I hope I am not just virtue signalling.
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Ethan
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I would argue that the evidence shows it has indeed come back, but also be controlled with sensible measures. I would also suggest that the collateral damage was made worse by indecision and dithering. Recent and historical evidence shows that good public health control goes along with good economic recovery. One of the biggest lies in this whole thing was that it was a choice between public health and the economy. It really wasn't. It was both together.
We are never getting rid of this, but the idea that endemic means harmless is very dangerous yet quite common.
D-S
Well-known member
Good to see a positive direction of travel
drdel
Tour Rookie
Your last sentence of first paragraph betrays your political slant!! Also happens to be wrong.
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
And no statement along the lines of 'the economy couldn't stand another lockdown' has been uttered? Ah well. If you say so.
Ethan
Money List Winner
Really. Many economists disagree with you. As does the history of Spanish flu and the observable experience of a number of countries in this pandemic. I expect you don't want to go over this again, though, so happy to leave it hanging.
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drdel
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Undoubtedly some economists support your thesis - many don't- it's the age old economics dilemma and basis of "Health Economics".
"Health economics is the discipline of economics applied to the topic of health care. Broadly defined, economics concerns how society allocates its resources among alternative uses. Scarcity of these resources provides the foundation of economic theory and from this starting point, three basic questions arise:
What goods and services shall we produce?
How shall we produce them?
Who shall receive them?
Health economics addresses these questions primarily from the perspective of efficiency—maximising the benefits from available resources (or ensuring benefits gained exceed benefits forgone). Equity concerns are also recognised—what is a fair distribution of resources. Considerations of equity often conflict with efficiency directives. However, due to the contested nature of this area and the difficulties in quantifying equity dimensions, this element has not been a major focus of health economist’s work." (Dr D P Kernick, St Thomas’ Medical Group.)
drdel
Tour Rookie
Rather than missdirect this thread perhaps you'd like to create a thread on proper economics rather than cite jingoistic journalistic articles. Any refereed papers you have authored on economic policy etc might go down well
HomerJSimpson
Hall of Famer
My ward clerk finally testing negative today. Hopefully the same tomorrow and she can return to work next weekend. She's really struggled despite being triple jabbed and a reminder that it isn't mild and easy to deal with for everyone
D-S
Well-known member
Interesting to see that despite the high recorded COVID deaths in January, that deaths so far this year are lower than the 2015-19 average.
PNWokingham
Journeyman Pro
Just noticed that Denmark, last week, dropped all covid-related laws as the virus now no longer deemed a critical threat to society - and this is despite a massive surge in cases way ahead of UK and other countries. They are also admitting that you cannot control the spread of this infection even with severe restictions
Swinglowandslow
Well-known member
Bit late replying, but no, I'm comparing them to the most common type mask, the "blue" one that has a PME 2.5 standard.
I agree home made cloth masks are hardly any use
Swinglowandslow
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Think you must have hit a nerve there, SR?
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That's huge. I believe Denmark have done the same, might be slightly out but not by much.
road2ruin
Q-School Graduate
Good news, allows employees/students to go about their daily life when well i.e. symptomless.
Hopefully the bigger change will be for the expectation of employers that people should 'man up' and struggle into work when they should be at home and not spreading various lurgy's around the office.
Hopefully the bigger change will be for the expectation of employers that people should 'man up' and struggle into work when they should be at home and not spreading various lurgy's around the office.
Foxholer
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Foxholer
Blackballed
What a ridiculous suggestion!
And FWIW, economic policy seems very much like Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle...Any implimentation changes the rules so much that a new policy is required!