Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

[bobmac]

People tested positive DOWN 22.8%
Deaths within 28 days of positive test DOWN 16.3%
Patients in hospital DOWN by 277
Patients admitted DOWN 12%
Patients on ICU DOWN by 13

And more importantly to me...

People tested positive in my area DOWN 65.1%
Deaths within 28 days of positive test in my area 0
Patients in hospital in my area DOWN 9%
Patients admitted to hospital in my area DOWN 70%
Patients in ICU in my area DOWN 50% to 1

 

[SaintHacker]

This topic is turning into rammel.

It's not good enough to be rammel ?

So why keep reading/adding to it? ?‍

 

[SaintHacker]

So all legal restrictions could be removed by the end of the month, including mandatory isolation. Best news I've heard for a long time!?

 

[Blue in Munich]

So all legal restrictions could be removed by the end of the month, including mandatory isolation. Best news I've heard for a long time!?

As much as I want that to be the case, I have no faith in the source of the message.

 

[Swinglowandslow]

People tested positive DOWN 22.8%
Deaths within 28 days of positive test DOWN 16.3%
Patients in hospital DOWN by 277
Patients admitted DOWN 12%
Patients on ICU DOWN by 13

And more importantly to me...

People tested positive in my area DOWN 65.1%
Deaths within 28 days of positive test in my area 0
Patients in hospital in my area DOWN 9%
Patients admitted to hospital in my area DOWN 70%
Patients in ICU in my area DOWN 50% to 1

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Gone the other way here!

 

[SocketRocket]

So why keep reading/adding to it? ?‍

Jeez, I guess a bit of banter is pushing it with you ?
You seem to have ignored the ?

 

[SocketRocket]

Gone the other way here!

And here, it's all gone up.

 

[SocketRocket]

So all legal restrictions could be removed by the end of the month, including mandatory isolation. Best news I've heard for a long time!?

I just can't see how people with Covid could simply mix with the general public and how it could be considered good news.

 

[D-S]

And here, it's all gone up.

That means it must be going to even more quickly than average in two other areas.

 

[Foxholer]

I just can't see how people with Covid could simply mix with the general public and how it could be considered good news.

A commitment to herd immunity perhaps?
Or, thinking cynically, something unmentionable.

 

[SocketRocket]

That means it must be going to even more quickly than average in two other areas.

It could be, who knows. The stats are not always as they are presented. For example, overall cases are down but so is testing.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I just can't see how people with Covid could simply mix with the general public and how it could be considered good news.

I don't know what we are going to do.

It's all very well saying that those who have made this decision are aware of the needs of the vulnerable - being aware is one thing but I haven't heard anything that tells the vulnerable what they and those caring for them must do; what they should not be doing; and what - if any - additional support they will be offered, given the current plan seems to simply be to give the virus free rein to spread as it wishes through the populace. This is NOT just like the flu because unlike flu viruses and illness, we simply and as a matter of fact do not have many decades of experience of the vulnerable especially living with; treating, and managing coronavirus and covid.

Question is therefore...Why now? Why lift ALL restrictions and requirements on us now when things seem to be stabilising; why not wait another six months or so - enough time to hopefully see the current variant infection growth through and additional time to develop more sophisticated vaccines; time to keep watch for further immediate variants; time to understand better the impact of the current variant and more time to understand long covid and develop treatments for it.

It's not as if our lives are currently being significantly impacted - perhaps some inconvenience and occasional minor discomfort for a few - but if we are truthful not significantly impacted. Of course I am unable to answer my own question as much as I have an idea.

 

[D-S]

It could be, who knows. The stats are not always as they are presented. For example, overall cases are down but so is testing.

Testing is just one element, the original quote refers to deaths, ICU patients, Patients in hospital, Patients admitted to hospital improving.
It appears as if you only believe bad news and ignore any positive trends.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

No masks in schools from 28th Feb in Scotland.

 

[road2ruin]

I don't know what we are going to do.

It's all very well saying that those who have made this decision are aware of the needs of the vulnerable - being aware is one thing but I haven't heard anything that tells the vulnerable what they and those caring for them must do; what they should not be doing; and what - if any - additional support they will be offered, given the current plan seems to simply be to give the virus free rein to spread as it wishes through the populace. This is NOT just like the flu because unlike flu viruses and illness, we simply and as a matter of fact do not have many decades of experience of the vulnerable especially living with; treating, and managing coronavirus and covid.

Question is therefore...Why now? Why lift ALL restrictions and requirements on us now when things seem to be stabilising; why not wait another six months or so - enough time to hopefully see the current variant infection growth through and additional time to develop more sophisticated vaccines; time to keep watch for further immediate variants; time to understand better the impact of the current variant and more time to understand long covid and develop treatments for it.

It's not as if our lives are currently being significantly impacted - perhaps some inconvenience and occasional minor discomfort for a few - but if we are truthful not significantly impacted. Of course I am unable to answer my own question as much as I have an idea.

I think the issue is that there will always be people at the end of any period who will want it extended for 'just another few months', at some point the restrictions have to be lifted. Personally I'd have been tempted to leave it at the end of March, well into spring with hopefully warmer weather and less mixing indoors. I think after that we know that Covid numbers will drop drastically as they did last summer and the summer before.

We need to get to a point where people who have symptoms are sensible and stay in and those who aren't ill just get on with it. With the latter group we're not going to know whether they're asymptomatic or not as there won't be testing which is how is should be now we're at this point.

 

[Hobbit]

I don't know what we are going to do.

It's all very well saying that those who have made this decision are aware of the needs of the vulnerable - being aware is one thing but I haven't heard anything that tells the vulnerable what they and those caring for them must do; what they should not be doing; and what - if any - additional support they will be offered, given the current plan seems to simply be to give the virus free rein to spread as it wishes through the populace. This is NOT just like the flu because unlike flu viruses and illness, we simply and as a matter of fact do not have many decades of experience of the vulnerable especially living with; treating, and managing coronavirus and covid.

Question is therefore...Why now? Why lift ALL restrictions and requirements on us now when things seem to be stabilising; why not wait another six months or so - enough time to hopefully see the current variant infection growth through and additional time to develop more sophisticated vaccines; time to keep watch for further immediate variants; time to understand better the impact of the current variant and more time to understand long covid and develop treatments for it.

It's not as if our lives are currently being significantly impacted - perhaps some inconvenience and occasional minor discomfort for a few - but if we are truthful not significantly impacted. Of course I am unable to answer my own question as much as I have an idea.

I wonder if it’s become a ‘numbers game,’ where x percentage are considered expendable?

Here is Spain, today is no masks outside. Most people still wearing them though.

 

[SocketRocket]

Testing is just one element, the original quote refers to deaths, ICU patients, Patients in hospital, Patients admitted to hospital improving.
It appears as if you only believe bad news and ignore any positive trends.

Oh, I see. If I have a different view to yours I only believe bad news. If I accuse you of only believing good news that would be OK with you then.

As people we have different conceptual values on matters like this. I made a comment that suggested the lower testing levels will have an influence on the numbers being reported as new infections. Regarding deaths, 2,000 or so people dead with Covid a week is a tragic statistic to me, it's not mearly a number on a spread sheet; it's the loss of real people along with the grief and loss that creates. Numbers being admitted into hospital are down but still high bearing in mind it was around 2,000 not so long ago.

 

[ColchesterFC]

I don't know what we are going to do.

It's all very well saying that those who have made this decision are aware of the needs of the vulnerable - being aware is one thing but I haven't heard anything that tells the vulnerable what they and those caring for them must do; what they should not be doing; and what - if any - additional support they will be offered, given the current plan seems to simply be to give the virus free rein to spread as it wishes through the populace. This is NOT just like the flu because unlike flu viruses and illness, we simply and as a matter of fact do not have many decades of experience of the vulnerable especially living with; treating, and managing coronavirus and covid.

Question is therefore...Why now? Why lift ALL restrictions and requirements on us now when things seem to be stabilising; why not wait another six months or so - enough time to hopefully see the current variant infection growth through and additional time to develop more sophisticated vaccines; time to keep watch for further immediate variants; time to understand better the impact of the current variant and more time to understand long covid and develop treatments for it.

It's not as if our lives are currently being significantly impacted - perhaps some inconvenience and occasional minor discomfort for a few - but if we are truthful not significantly impacted. Of course I am unable to answer my own question as much as I have an idea.

It's almost as though they've chosen to announce it now to distract people from something that we're not allowed to talk about. Or maybe I'm completely wrong and they're following the science. I know which of those two sentences I think is more likely.

 

[D-S]

Oh, I see. If I have a different view to yours I only believe bad news. If I accuse you of only believing good news that would be OK with you then.

If you constantly publish bad news and question the basis of any good news then you certainly have a different opinion than me. However I have consistently believed bad news when it has been the direction of travel but am also keen to see the positives when things are moving in the right direction. I also think it is important that the big picture is considered.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

It's not as if our lives are currently being significantly impacted - perhaps some inconvenience and occasional minor discomfort for a few - but if we are truthful not significantly impacted. Of course I am unable to answer my own question as much as I have an idea.

You seem to be looking through your own prism. Plenty are significantly affected. Take your pick of schools, hospitals, transport network, supply chains, hospitality, businesses all over, lacking staff who are healthy but having to isolate. It's creating a huge mess and is detrimental to many.