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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

ColchesterFC said:
Not at all. My point was that with such high numbers of cases in the community there will be a lot of people in hospital for other issues that will coincidentally have tested positive for Covid. They aren't in hospital because of Covid they just happen to have it. For a large number of these people they won't require treatment for Covid as it will only present as a mild disease and they will be fine, assuming that the treatment for whatever they're in for is successful. There will also be many that are being treated primarily for Covid. And there will be some that move from the former group into the latter group. I'm not suggesting that anyone shouldn't receive help to recover if they need it, just that some won't require help to recover from Covid.
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Possibly some with Covid and another ailment may mean the Covid prevents the other being treated.
 
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ColchesterFC said:
It's patients being primarily treated for Covid as opposed to those that are in there for another reason but happen to have Covid? As an example, in the first instance it's someone who has become ill after catching Covid and requires treatment for Covid and in the second it's someone that has gone in for a broken leg but who has tested positive for Covid. There are lots of people in hospital who HAVE Covid but aren't being treated FOR Covid.
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Sorry, I should have included an emoji of some description. My post was deliberately a little obtuse. The suggestions being bandied about is having Covid as the secondary condition somehow diminishes it. Imagine any number of different conditions, some chronic, and then having Covid on top of it.

I get that Covid can be mild, almost nonexistent or chronic, but surely having it on top of something else shouldn’t diminish it.
 
Listening to the radio and the talk about the horrendous numbers of children being referred to the NHS for serious mental health issues it got me wondering whether we are at the point that, unless ill, children should not be off school for Covid now.

We’ve just come to the end of a 10 day isolation period and, along with numerous others in her class, there was only a few hours of illness followed by 9 days of complete boredom. That’s without taking into account the asymptomatic children who have spent that time off school whilst being completely well. I know we’re able to test from day 5 but in my experience very few are released much before the full period.

I’m not talking about removing it for adults (I think that’s planned for March all being well) however I think for school aged kids it’s important that they’re in school as much as possible and for some it’s safer than being at home.
 
road2ruin said:
Listening to the radio and the talk about the horrendous numbers of children being referred to the NHS for serious mental health issues it got me wondering whether we are at the point that, unless ill, children should not be off school for Covid now.

We’ve just come to the end of a 10 day isolation period and, along with numerous others in her class, there was only a few hours of illness followed by 9 days of complete boredom. That’s without taking into account the asymptomatic children who have spent that time off school whilst being completely well. I know we’re able to test from day 5 but in my experience very few are released much before the full period.

I’m not talking about removing it for adults (I think that’s planned for March all being well) however I think for school aged kids it’s important that they’re in school as much as possible and for some it’s safer than being at home.
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That is the same for my two grandkids. Tested positive with a lapse of 3 days for the eldest. Both running about like their normal demented selves for 10 days.

Very pleased their OK but it does raise the question you ask.
 
road2ruin said:
Listening to the radio and the talk about the horrendous numbers of children being referred to the NHS for serious mental health issues it got me wondering whether we are at the point that, unless ill, children should not be off school for Covid now.

We’ve just come to the end of a 10 day isolation period and, along with numerous others in her class, there was only a few hours of illness followed by 9 days of complete boredom. That’s without taking into account the asymptomatic children who have spent that time off school whilst being completely well. I know we’re able to test from day 5 but in my experience very few are released much before the full period.

I’m not talking about removing it for adults (I think that’s planned for March all being well) however I think for school aged kids it’s important that they’re in school as much as possible and for some it’s safer than being at home.
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Somewhat agree, but I think that the issue is that if children with Covid are allowed into school it will inevitably spread to teachers and support staff. It could lead to even larger numbers of children having to be off school due to not having enough teachers available. I know of a few secondary schools in my area that are already doing 4 day weeks for all children with one year group having to stay at home each day due to staff isolating. Year 7 at home Monday, Year 8 at home Tuesday etc.
 
ColchesterFC said:
Somewhat agree, but I think that the issue is that if children with Covid are allowed into school it will inevitably spread to teachers and support staff. It could lead to even larger numbers of children having to be off school due to not having enough teachers available. I know of a few secondary schools in my area that are already doing 4 day weeks for all children with one year group having to stay at home each day due to staff isolating. Year 7 at home Monday, Year 8 at home Tuesday etc.
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I do understand that, it's difficult however the problem is that with reinfections now, if you're unlucky you might end up with Covid again 5 weeks or so after getting it initially. This means that a child who is well could miss 4 weeks of school in 9 which is a huge amount and very, very difficult to catch up on (depending on age etc).
 
Foxholer said:
Just noticed this article re the effectiveness of high quality masks
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/0...ong-protection-a-study-in-california-suggests
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Thanks for sharing. It only reinforces so many informed posts that have been posted up previously. How many times have we seen posts that detailed the size of the virus ‘particles’ and the size of the ’weave’ of a decent mask?

As Ethan said previously, posting up is almost a waste of time. The mask deniers will continue to deny, and will continue to post up spurious rubbish.
 
Just had to run twice for about 20m at a kids football birthday party. Kids versus dads. I was done! Good that I skipped parkrun this morning.
But I do make a great goalie against 5/6 year olds.
 
Hobbit said:
Thanks for sharing. It only reinforces so many informed posts that have been posted up previously. How many times have we seen posts that detailed the size of the virus ‘particles’ and the size of the ’weave’ of a decent mask?

As Ethan said previously, posting up is almost a waste of time. The mask deniers will continue to deny, and will continue to post up spurious rubbish.
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Are you dismissing the WHO report I posted that shows masks are pretty pointless? Funny I saw you post earlier singing the praises of the WHO!

I think it’s safe to say that we can now put mask wearing in the same envelope as The Nightingale Hospitals.

A pointless waste of money. (And the environmental cost is horrific)
 
Fade and Die said:
Are you dismissing the WHO report I posted that shows masks are pretty pointless? Funny I saw you post earlier singing the praises of the WHO!

I think it’s safe to say that we can now put mask wearing in the same envelope as The Nightingale Hospitals.

A pointless waste of money. (And the environmental cost is horrific)
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In your opinion. Perhaps you could explain why doctors and nurses wear them in ICU and theatres… for fun?
 
Fade and Die said:
Are you dismissing the WHO report I posted that shows masks are pretty pointless? Funny I saw you post earlier singing the praises of the WHO!

I think it’s safe to say that we can now put mask wearing in the same envelope as The Nightingale Hospitals.

A pointless waste of money. (And the environmental cost is horrific)
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Masks are very effective at reducing the amount of times a person touches their mouth and nose. If a mask ruduces mouth to surface infections then surely it can't be pointless?
 
Hobbit said:
In your opinion. Perhaps you could explain why doctors and nurses wear them in ICU and theatres… for fun?
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I am not sure anyone is disputing that the masks that doctors and nurses wear don’t work however they are specific masks, they are worn properly and they’re probably changed numerous times. I’d imagine none of those apply to the vast majority of the general public.

I’m not saying that masks don’t have a slight effect but the argument people put forward that doctors and nurses wear them just doesn’t work.
 
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hovis said:
Masks are very effective at reducing the amount of times a person touches their mouth and nose. If a mask ruduces mouth to surface infections then surely it can't be pointless?
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I know Face masks must be worn correctly, changed frequently, removed properly, disposed of safely and used in combination with good universal hygiene behaviour in order for them to be effective. I trust trained medical people to do this. I don’t trust the gen pop.
 
Our staff wear PPE and FFP masks every time they are at the bedspace of the Covid patients. We have dedicated donning and doffing areas and staff coming out of the Covid bays, must put fresh PPE on to return. They are diligent about hand hygiene and we run frequent mandatory refresher courses regarding infection control
 
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