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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

AmandaJR said:
There's the conundrum. We were sure it wasn't covid as he had none of the recognised symptoms although having read more now the headache he had is a symptom but not one that gets asked when you book a test.
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It is a problem. Of course we need our doctors and nurses to be fit and safe to deal with patients especially in an ICU environment but as we roll into flu/cold season where is the line? Do we test our staff at the first sniffle or cough (and then medically suspend until a negative result). Going to cause chaos with numbers and increase agency spend, put pressure on the regular staff and cause issues
 
IainP said:
A little look over the Channel.
This morning's news
https://www.connexionfrance.com/Fre...lt-weeks-ahead-as-predicts-lockdown-scenarios
Today they reported over 60K cases, and over 800 deaths for the second time this week ?
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Highest weekly death count in Spain, in October, 388. This week, 1000.

Our little village had shown on or close to zero cases all through the spring lockdown. Currently at 76. ICU beds are at 50%, with 1 or 2 being added every day. 6pm to 6am lockdown mooted for next week. Essential travel only.
 
Hobbit said:
Highest weekly death count in Spain, in October, 388. This week, 1000.

Our little village had shown on or close to zero cases all through the spring lockdown. Currently at 76. ICU beds are at 50%, with 1 or 2 being added every day. 6pm to 6am lockdown mooted for next week. Essential travel only.
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Why do you think Spain has been hit so hard twice? It seems like they have had really harsh clampdown both times yet still the numbers have been and are bad. What's the thinking?
 
Lord Tyrion said:
Why do you think Spain has been hit so hard twice? It seems like they have had really harsh clampdown both times yet still the numbers have been and are bad. What's the thinking?
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Poor management post-lockdown 1. The virus was still out there in those communities that suffered the most in LD1. When summer came and people travelled they took the virus to fresh fodder.

Mojacar, the nearest tourist haunt went from zero to 120 in the less than 2 weeks. More recently, we've had half term. Many northern Spanish have holiday homes down here - we're selling to a family from Barcelona - they come down here and it kicks off again. Locally, it started with 2 Peruvian families who travel around doing farm work. The farm worker shanty towns are rife with it.

Its a close contact/contact virus. The more people that move, the more the virus moves.
 
Delivered into a few pharmacies inside supermarkets yesterday and there were no one-way systems, no security on the doors so stores were full, people crossing in isles, self service areas people were on top of each other, no spacing in queues, people grabbing trolley’s due to shortages that had just been used by others, the list of breaches was never ending!

The cross contamination within supermarkets must be huge!
 
Fish said:
Delivered into a few pharmacies inside supermarkets yesterday and there were no one-way systems, no security on the doors so stores were full, people crossing in isles, self service areas people were on top of each other, no spacing in queues, people grabbing trolley’s due to shortages that had just been used by others, the list of breaches was never ending!

The cross contamination within supermarkets must be huge!
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The one way systems were dropped when we changed to the 1 metre plus rule. You're right that a lot don't seem to care about keeping any sort of distance , I patiently wait for someone to move along only for people to dive in behind me. Reaching for stuff over my head
 
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Assuming driving lessons and tests resume as planned on 2nd December we now have a few tweaks that have been made to the test.
"One window on each side of the car WILL be open during the test. Wear suitable clothing"
So if it's blowing a gale and hammering down with rain you have to have windows open. Everybody and everything gets soaked, spectacle wearers will need wipers on their lenses, gloves will need to be wind and rain proof and let's just hope there isn't a lorry going the other way when you're doing 60.
Its not fair on the kids to keep putting tests back but its equally not fair to make them do it in circumstances that you wouldn't meet in real life. The extra clothing required (hats, gloves, coat, more layers) is bad enough but getting showered as well..?
3°C, raining and 20mph wind _ who drives for 40 minutes with windows open in that.?
Kinda really hoping this vaccine comes soon......:oops:
 
Imurg said:
Assuming driving lessons and tests resume as planned on 2nd December we now have a few tweaks that have been made to the test.
"One window on each side of the car WILL be open during the test. Wear suitable clothing"
So if it's blowing a gale and hammering down with rain you have to have windows open. Everybody and everything gets soaked, spectacle wearers will need wipers on their lenses, gloves will need to be wind and rain proof and let's just hope there isn't a lorry going the other way when you're doing 60.
Its not fair on the kids to keep putting tests back but its equally not fair to make them do it in circumstances that you wouldn't meet in real life. The extra clothing required (hats, gloves, coat, more layers) is bad enough but getting showered as well..?
3°C, raining and 20mph wind _ who drives for 40 minutes with windows open in that.?
Kinda really hoping this vaccine comes soon......:oops:
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That does sound pretty crazy, maybe just get a fleet of convertibles ?
 
chrisd said:
It is a fact that doctors surgeries have been asked to prepare from that date
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It is, but it is rather unlikely there will be vaccine in December, and it appears that this news reached the media before it reached GPs, who need a bit of time to get organised, and not all of whom are happy to hear this job will be dropped on them for derisory payment without very much planning.
 
Ethan said:
It is, but it is rather unlikely there will be vaccine in December, and it appears that this news reached the media before it reached GPs, who need a bit of time to get organised, and not all of whom are happy to hear this job will be dropped on them for derisory payment without very much planning.
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I believe they are trying to decide whether all surgeries will roll it out or whether to offer it from certain ones in the hub.
 
Ethan said:
It is, but it is rather unlikely there will be vaccine in December, and it appears that this news reached the media before it reached GPs, who need a bit of time to get organised, and not all of whom are happy to hear this job will be dropped on them for derisory payment without very much planning.
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Most of my friends who are GPs are dragging in £100k+. Why do they need more when its a marginal cost increase?
 
drdel said:
Most of my friends who are GPs are dragging in £100k+. Why do they need more when its a marginal cost increase?
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Where have you been for the last 30 years? The NHS doesn't do marginal cost any more. It prices procedures based on a market rate. Ask Boots if they will administer it for £12, the offered fee. Based on their pricing structure for Covid tests, I doubt it.

If your GP friends are representative of the country's GPs, they will be desperately planning to retire, leave or emigrate (RLE has become a well recognised acronym in GP land now).
 
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