Old Skier
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Today my exercise allowance was combined with a visit to the local shop, 5 mile round trip, who knew you can walk to shops.
I use him as an example - because he has had council tax payments put on hold then so can anyone. I mention him as I know it for a FACT - it is not an assertion or hope. It's a FACT.You like to state and shout it’s not about your son, but you constantly bring him into it, so, before this outbreak he was also in arrears with his council tax, so he doesn’t manage himself and money very well, does he? But hey, let’s throw some tax payers money at him, to squander away! You also stated his partner is at home all day every day, why?
Isolation Day 2..
I'm feeling quite chipper
Apart from sniffles that I've had for months I'm feeling fine
Herself is still coughing but it seems to be less - got a feeling it's just a cold but....
The Boy?...eating pizza
All's quiet of the western front
I use him as an example - because he has had council tax payments put on hold then so can anyone. I mention him as I know it for a FACT - it is not an assertion or hope. It's a FACT.
And we know that mortgage payments will be deferred or put on hold - and landlords will not be able to evict based upon non-payment of rent. And I know for a fact that pretty much every other debt or payment an individual can have can be deferred or put onto a very low payment payment plan - and I know this for a fact as I have spent the last 4 months dong this.
I completely agree... my point was more around what some would define as ‘essential’ vs others, and by extension what would be a good number to meet the need. Personally I am not sure how I would live on £94 a week, but also I am not sure how the girl got to £900 a month as her essential outgoings.My opinion is if you’ve paid into the pot, in your hour of NEED you should be supported. Isn’t that what the welfare state was about?
I completely agree... my point was more around what some would define as ‘essential’ vs others, and by extension what would be a good number to meet the need. Personally I am not sure how I would live on £94 a week, but also I am not sure how the girl got to £900 as her essential outgoings.
Thanks to Wolf’s post I’ve broadened my perspective a bit as I wouldn’t have thought to include CCJ’s or Magistrate’s fines... I guess that anything that you are committed to (through past actions or signing up for credit on phones/cars etc when things were going well) is an essential outgoing, even if you wouldn’t sign up for them now.
The problem is still therefore how to determine the right amount - means testing would make it cost more and take longer, and if you just cover peoples’ list of existing expenses then you risk alienating those that were perhaps more frugal etc.
Tough job all round, and I‘m glad I don’t have to square that circle.
The problem is still therefore how to determine the right amount - means testing would make it cost more and take longer, and if you just cover peoples’ list of existing expenses then you risk alienating those that were perhaps more frugal etc.
Isolation Day 2..
I'm feeling quite chipper
Apart from sniffles that I've had for months I'm feeling fine
Herself is still coughing but it seems to be less - got a feeling it's just a cold but....
The Boy?...eating pizza
All's quiet of the western front
The Tory party's largest donors....the construction industry, seem to now be influencing Government policy.
Nicola taking a totally different view in Scotland and is now setting up her own advisory group.
I use him as an example - because he has had council tax payments put on hold then so can anyone. I mention him as I know it for a FACT - it is not an assertion or hope. It's a FACT.
And we know that mortgage payments will be deferred or put on hold - and landlords will not be able to evict based upon non-payment of rent. And I know for a fact that pretty much every other debt or payment an individual can have can be deferred or put onto a very low payment payment plan - and I know this for a fact as I have spent the last 4 months dong this.
You clearly don't understand how very low paid struggle from week to week, month to month. Put money away - you are having a laugh. It would be funny if it weren't sad that so many thoink that way about the poor.
And btw - is the government not throwing bucket loads of money at the employed but unable to work as their employers business has had to close or stop? Money the employer and employee does NOT have to pay back even though things like mortgage can be deferred; added to outstanding loan; or load period extended.
Or is it that throwing money at the often much better off employed, is different from throwing money at the often very poor SE or ZHC. Well for some it seems that it is.
BTW - as you like to have a go at my son. He built up council tax arrears largely because he and his partner did not want to make any claims on the state for benefits (he has never in 6 yrs post-uni claimed a penny from the state in benefits - not one penny) - he wanted to try and make his own way without state support - but things didn't always turn out as he'd hope - as hard as he might try and as hard as he might work.
The Tory party's largest donors....the construction industry, seem to now be influencing Government policy.
Nicola taking a totally different view in Scotland and is now setting up her own advisory group.
Maybe if he stopped hammering us with utter there wouldn't be an issue? Just saying.
Who says I don't want a means test? I want whatever enables SE and those on ZHCs to be able to stop work NOW - whatever system that is - or guarantee is given - I frankly don't care.I’ve not had a go at your son, you’ve constantly brought him into the debates so it’s only right that he can be referred to, or is it only a one-way debate? It may be admirable to not claim what he’s entitled to, but in his case, imo, it’s foolish, hence his arrears, and what of his partner, which in your own words, is home all day everyday, obviously not claiming if of the same ilk, obviously not working, so being supported by someone who can’t afford to support them and who’s morals outweigh sensibility!
No doubt this is why you don’t want a means test, but I’d rather see one, then the right people get the right amount support!!
This the bit that really boils my piss. Why is it any of my business how much anyone else gets?
It's this attitude that is one of the most annoying things wrong with Society. People are more concerned about the perceived injustices, than they are about the actual ones.............
Were just trying to lighten the mood no offence meant.I'm just using £1000 per month as an example. OK then. The government gives every zero hours contract worker and everyone self-employed £500 / month. Straight off. No issues - no checking or means testing. And if we are that concerned about the cost to the country then it counts as income for 2020/21 SA tax return. But I know that my lad puts about £40 / week into the meter for gas and leccy. So make it £625 /month assuming £125/month gas and leccy - and £125/week food. And whatever it is, it counts as income for 20/21 tax return
Agreed, except the "better still".Or, better still, shut down ALL non-essential workplaces...
I would put money on frontline workers in the nhs meeting more people than Charlie.I think it was more over concerns with the large amount of cross contamination that might have occurred due to the last large public meeting he was engaged in.