Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

SwingsitlikeHogan said:
If I can put up with Johnson and Co - and can even put up with the current wittering of Francois and Bridgen then anyone should be able to accept the gist of what a politician of another complexion is saying without looking to nit pick. That time will come again but it is not now.
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On one of my FB is a a pro-Brexit, anti-Corbyn guy... It is unreal on what he posts at the moment. I keep him there for pure entertainment value. I have seen posts with Corbyn saying that we should give Corona immigration as it is a terrorist. The stuff that goes on in some circles is unreal..
 
robinthehood said:
It's sounds brutal but a lot of the deaths we are seeing are people who would have died soon anyway. It's only further down the line we'll get an idea if how many deaths were solely attributable to corona virus.
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Sadly and as I think was strongly alluded to in the briefing today, clinicians will have to make even more difficult decisions based on best survival chances going forward more so than ever
 
robinthehood said:
It's sounds brutal but a lot of the deaths we are seeing are people who would have died soon anyway. It's only further down the line we'll get an idea if how many deaths were solely attributable to corona virus.
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It does sound brutal and u maybe right .
U possibly are ..

Tell that to some1 who has family with underlying health problems . Quality of life may not even be great . But every day every single min of every single day is important to those people .why do u think hospitals esp Az&E are full of visitors Reckless selfish people have no right to shorten r threaten this time even by 1 min .
 
Private hospitals turning over most of their capacity in the next week.
8000 beds, 1200 ventilators and nearly 20k staff.
Should be good to go by the end of the week.
Has to be good news...
 
Imurg said:
Private hospitals turning over most of their capacity in the next week.
8000 beds, 1200 ventilators and nearly 20k staff.
Should be good to go by the end of the week.
Has to be good news...
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Having been working to try and set up the escalation beds in our theatres yesterday and knowing just how bad it has been for our senior technician to get stuff in from central stores ventilators are an issue. So are pumps and especially PPE equipment. I am sure we'll find a way. The extra staff will need training but that should be fine to do with some planning so hoping we're as ready as we can be for the peak
 
K club . (2006 ryder cup) hotel has new owners . They have omoffered our HSE (nhs) use of it for anything they need.
Guards having to raid pubs coz some selfish folk cant stay out and keep their diatance
 
HomerJSimpson said:
Having been working to try and set up the escalation beds in our theatres yesterday and knowing just how bad it has been for our senior technician to get stuff in from central stores ventilators are an issue. So are pumps and especially PPE equipment. I am sure we'll find a way. The extra staff will need training but that should be fine to do with some planning so hoping we're as ready as we can be for the peak
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The vent on the anaes machine in the theatre should be fine - they're plenty sophisticated enough. The induction room might be an issue in terms of monitoring, but if you have "pick and go" monitoring in recovery this can be moved into the induction rooms. If its all networked to a central station that will ease some of the staffing burden. Also, if its a wireless network you can get that extended fairly easily by adding access points - as you say its the timescale that becomes a problem.

The other issue in terms of Control of Infection is the positive pressure aircon in some theatres. The theatre has air pumped into it via the aircon so that the pressure is always higher than outside - it pushes infection away from the theatre. Great for theatres but just what you don't want in an isolation(escalation) room.

No doubt the team are on top of it... good luck
 
2blue said:
She's wanting us to stand together as one so we can be strong & back each other up....... some of us at least know what that means & how to do it... think-on!! :unsure::unsure:
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I thought we were all standing as one, apart from the profiteers
 
pauldj42 said:
Seriously mate, get past your prejudices!! The future health of all of us is at stake! All parties should be standing up and working together, let boris decide if he wants their help or not and which “experts” he may or may not want to use.

What’s the alternative? HoC back to like it was during the Brexit fiasco and the Country stumbling around!!

Party allegiances, past history, etc needs to be parked up and people have to come together!
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Prejudices, seriously paul. ?

I have asked 2 in which I do not know the answers to. You mention the alternative is to have the HOC back to its Brexit fiasco. Have you forgotten already that it was Labours lack of direction and uncertainnty that helped create that fiasco

So I will ask again what experts would a coalition government bring In that the Tory government have not already brought in. I really am.i terested to know.
Secondly is there any other country that has already formed a coalition government. Again I do not know the answer.
 
DRW said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1241463928271581185

This twitter account has a sad graph, hope the curve gradient changes soon for us, spain, Italy, actually all countries.
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You can see at times the pain and confusion in Boris's face as he announces ever more control by the state on our daily lives to try and stop the growth of cases whilst he is wondering why some people are stupid and selfish. Looks like the loss in trust of the public in most politicians over the last few years was not such a bright idea.

'This goes against everything I stand for politically'
'But if you don't do this 2 hundred thousand could die unnecessarily'
'But this is against everything I stand for'
'Literally 2 hundred thousand....'

Suspect we'll be even more locked down very soon.
 
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Tashyboy said:
Prejudices, seriously paul. ?

I have asked 2 in which I do not know the answers to. You mention the alternative is to have the HOC back to its Brexit fiasco. Have you forgotten already that it was Labours lack of direction and uncertainnty that helped create that fiasco

So I will ask again what experts would a coalition government bring In that the Tory government have not already brought in. I really am.i terested to know.
Secondly is there any other country that has already formed a coalition government. Again I do not know the answer.
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Yes mate, prejudices, first was your dig at Corbyn, then we had your first question which you changed above by dropping the word Labour before experts and finally, does it matter if other Countries have formed coalitions or not?

Did you forget Brexit was all controlled and managed under the tory leadership. Did we/they not lose 2 PM’s over it who walked away when the going got tough....etc

We could spend hours on here, left and right, picking holes on what each party is or is not doing, are you aware of the background of every MP in the HoC’s? Are you seriously suggesting no MP outside of the tory party has nothing to offer?
I genuinely don’t care if the man on the moon helps boris, dismissing anybody or offer of help purely on political allegiances is stupidity of the highest order.

Happy to have an enquiry on what we could or should of done once were through this as I’m sure with the benefit of hindsight the knives will be out, but until that time I believe we should bringing everyone together and try to fight this thing as one.
 
Tashyboy said:
So I will ask again what experts would a coalition government bring In that the Tory government have not already brought in. I really am.i terested to know.
Secondly is there any other country that has already formed a coalition government. Again I do not know the answer.
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Tashy, just to pull out your 2 questions.

I would hope that all the experts would come up with pretty much the same answers. Some of those answers will include recommendations. Its then up to the politicians to decide how they want to manage the issue. What recommendations are feasible with the resources available. It will be a whole host of judgement calls. There'll be some politicians from all sides whose judgements will be well worth listening to, and there'll be some that you wouldn't give house room to - think about the Tory MP that often blocks private members bills/upskirting… There's a few in Cabinet I'm not sure are top drawer. Equally, there's a few in opposition that I'd like to see in there.

I cannot see an ounce of sense in not listening to the very intelligent politicians from any party.

Your second question, coalition govts; some countries already have coalition govts. Whether any have been formed purely to address the Covid19 issue, I don't know. But, again, its about not disregarding an option until its proven not to be right. I'm not sure a coalition govt is right, nor do I know if its wrong but its worth considering. And as LT said earlier, there's already cross party working in Select Committees.

The Chancellor was in front of a Select Committee earlier this week, and there was some damn fine questions asked by MP's from all parties. Thankfully he was up to the task, but more importantly those questions were asked, and asked by very intelligent people from all sides.

Sorry Tash but I think you've got this one a little wrong.
 
pauldj42 said:
Yes mate, prejudices, first was your dig at Corbyn, then we had your first question which you changed above by dropping the word Labour before experts and finally, does it matter if other Countries have formed coalitions or not?

Did you forget Brexit was all controlled and managed under the tory leadership. Did we/they not lose 2 PM’s over it who walked away when the going got tough....etc

We could spend hours on here, left and right, picking holes on what each party is or is not doing, are you aware of the background of every MP in the HoC’s? Are you seriously suggesting no MP outside of the tory party has nothing to offer?
I genuinely don’t care if the man on the moon helps boris, dismissing anybody or offer of help purely on political allegiances is stupidity of the highest order.

Happy to have an enquiry on what we could or should of done once were through this as I’m sure with the benefit of hindsight the knives will be out, but until that time I believe we should bringing everyone together and try to fight this thing as one.
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Your last sentence is what I believe we are already doing. Covid does not ask which colour rosette you wear.
 
Hobbit said:
Tashy, just to pull out your 2 questions.

I would hope that all the experts would come up with pretty much the same answers. Some of those answers will include recommendations. Its then up to the politicians to decide how they want to manage the issue. What recommendations are feasible with the resources available. It will be a whole host of judgement calls. There'll be some politicians from all sides whose judgements will be well worth listening to, and there'll be some that you wouldn't give house room to - think about the Tory MP that often blocks private members bills/upskirting… There's a few in Cabinet I'm not sure are top drawer. Equally, there's a few in opposition that I'd like to see in there.

I cannot see an ounce of sense in not listening to the very intelligent politicians from any party.

Your second question, coalition govts; some countries already have coalition govts. Whether any have been formed purely to address the Covid19 issue, I don't know. But, again, its about not disregarding an option until its proven not to be right. I'm not sure a coalition govt is right, nor do I know if its wrong but its worth considering. And as LT said earlier, there's already cross party working in Select Committees.

The Chancellor was in front of a Select Committee earlier this week, and there was some damn fine questions asked by MP's from all parties. Thankfully he was up to the task, but more importantly those questions were asked, and asked by very intelligent people from all sides.

Sorry Tash but I think you've got this one a little wrong.

Having read your post I would say I have got it very right. Your post is the only one that has given a thoughtful and enlightening response to my questions.
I stated twice, I do not know the answers to my questions and as you mentioned the government is already answering questions from all parties which I did not know.
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Tashyboy said:
Your last sentence is what I believe we are already doing. Covid does not ask which colour rosette you wear.
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Except not Corbyn or Labour experts! You are the one that posted this rubbish mate, no one else, you made it quite clear what your thoughts were on who should or should not help boris and now you post the bit in bold!:rolleyes:

Enjoy your holiday and stay safe,
 
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