Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

Hacker Khan said:
I see visiting elderly parents as like going all in with a pair of Jacks on the second hand of the night. You may win, but the consequences of losing are not good so now is probably not the time.

I think society needs to understand the concept of risk a bit more. In that it is impact as well as probability.
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Good way of summing up and looking at it.
 
pauldj42 said:
Absolutely gobsmacked to see the pictures from Skegness and Snowdon yesterday! Described as worse than a Bank Holiday.

Unfortunately until we go in to complete lockdown I still think there’s too many thinking it won’t happen to them.

Some of it, maybe, comes from the mixed messages we see/hear in the media.
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Its a tough one Paul. "It won't happen to me" syndrome is an issue in so many accidents and incidents. The enormity of what's in front of people makes the connection a little hard for some people to acknowledge.

Even in lockdown you'll get examples of it, and of selfishness. Fine 'em, take the car off them, and broadcast it, and you'll still get people doing it. The police and the judiciary are harsher over here, and it is still happening... that's life. Best not get too het up about it, and just leave the powers that be handle it.
 
Hobbit said:
Its a tough one Paul. "It won't happen to me" syndrome is an issue in so many accidents and incidents. The enormity of what's in front of people makes the connection a little hard for some people to acknowledge.

Even in lockdown you'll get examples of it, and of selfishness. Fine 'em, take the car off them, and broadcast it, and you'll still get people doing it. The police and the judiciary are harsher over here, and it is still happening... that's life. Best not get too het up about it, and just leave the powers that be handle it.
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Just shocked at the sheer number Bri, you’ll always get the “odd” exception, just didn’t expect the “odd” to be in the thousands.
 
Doon frae Troon said:
Oh great the city dwellers and their camper vans are all de-camping to the hills of Scotland and Wales and the beaches of Cornwall.
I sense their tyres might receive some surgery.:eek:
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Don't tar them all with the same brush Doon....mine is remaining on the drive, as are most who have drives...
On the other hand there are a lot who would otherwise be spread across Europe and have been sent 'home'- but don't have home's and drives here anymore. These represent a significant proportion of those you are currently seeing.
The rest are simply a sub set of the wider group that simply haven't got it currently - as represented by the crowds (filmed) heading to Snowdonia.
 
Blue in Munich said:
And yet a lot of the medical catastrophes that the experts warned us about simply didn't happen, as he points out. He may hold a different viewpoint but unlike some he has at least backed it up to some degree. You may not agree with him, but that does not make him a lunatic. From the article;

"The former editor of The Times, Sir Simon Jenkins, recently listed these unfulfilled scares: bird flu did not kill the predicted millions in 1997. In 1999 it was Mad Cow Disease and its human variant, vCJD, which was predicted to kill half a million. Fewer than 200 in fact died from it in the UK.

The first Sars outbreak of 2003 was reported as having ‘a 25 per cent chance of killing tens of millions’ and being ‘worse than Aids’. In 2006, another bout of bird flu was declared ‘the first pandemic of the 21st Century’.

There were similar warnings in 2009, that swine flu could kill 65,000. It did not. The Council of Europe described the hyping of the 2009 pandemic as ‘one of the great medical scandals of the century’. Well, we shall no doubt see.

But while I see very little evidence of a pandemic, and much more of a PanicDemic, I can witness on my daily round the slow strangulation of dozens of small businesses near where I live and work, and the catastrophic collapse of a flourishing society, all these things brought on by a Government policy made out of fear and speculation rather than thought."
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It’s a good point about previous scare stories amounting to very little and I wonder if that’s in the back of a lot of people’s minds who seem to be taking the warnings with a pinch of salt....Worth remembering what eventually happened to The Little Boy who Cried Wolf. ☹️
 
Fade and Die said:
It’s a good point about previous scare stories amounting to very little and I wonder if that’s in the back of a lot of people’s minds who seem to be taking the warnings with a pinch of salt....Worth remembering what eventually happened to The Little Boy who Cried Wolf. ☹️
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I would like to distance myself from any little boys harmed in the making of this post or story ?
 
Doon frae Troon said:
Oh great the city dwellers and their camper vans are all de-camping to the hills of Scotland and Wales and the beaches of Cornwall.
I sense their tyres might receive some surgery.:eek:
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My caravan will be coming out of winter storage as soon as I get home, but only for me to drive it home to park on the drive for me to self isolate in for 7 days before I go back in to the house. With Mrs Colch being in one of the high risk categories I can't take the chance that I've picked something up while away and take it back in to the house. I'll hook it up to the house electric and have already told her that I'm going to get her to put the TV and PS4 on the doorstep for me to have in isolation. Will have the fridge and cooker so will be all set for a peaceful 7 days. Only problem is that the shower doesn't work so I'm going to be a bit whiffy when I come out of isolation.
 
ColchesterFC said:
My caravan will be coming out of winter storage as soon as I get home, but only for me to drive it home to park on the drive for me to self isolate in for 7 days before I go back in to the house. With Mrs Colch being in one of the high risk categories I can't take the chance that I've picked something up while away and take it back in to the house. I'll hook it up to the house electric and have already told her that I'm going to get her to put the TV and PS4 on the doorstep for me to have in isolation. Will have the fridge and cooker so will be all set for a peaceful 7 days. Only problem is that the shower doesn't work so I'm going to be a bit whiffy when I come out of isolation.
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Our caravan is stored on a site near Leeds castle and it’s been great here this weekend.
Not sure I really want to go home as we’ve got plenty of food, wine and beer was replenished yesterday from the chapel down winery and I’ve got my laptop so can work remotely
 
We also need a bit of thinking out of the box and imagination by people running quango type things, e.g. R.s.p.b, Nat trust, etc.
People isolating and being told to exercise means walks in countryside are not frowned on (yet)- mental well being and so on.
So, why aren't gates not left permanently open ( livestock retention permitting). With appropriate notices saying why.
Walkers opening and closing gates after each other etc...
Come on... such organisations have well paid execs. Get acting.
 
Just thought I'd share my Control of Infection 'protocols' for my shopping trip on Thursday.

Thankfully it wasn't too warm a day.
1) Long sleeved shirt & long trousers.
2) Gloves and mask.
3) Parked with at least 3 spare spaces around, and in an area of the car park that wouldn't fill up.
4) Maintained social distancing in the queue to go into the shop, and with only 10 people at any one time, didn't pass anyone in any aisle.
5) When I'd left home I'd purposely left the gate open, no touching the gate. And I'd left instructions for HID to open the front door as I pulled up.
6) Unloaded direct into the kitchen cupboards.
7) Stripped off direct into the washer - washer door already open, which HID closed after I'd left the kitchen. She was in the dining area until I was in the shower.
8) Straight into the shower.
9) No going out for either of us for the next 10 days, till the next shopping trip, which will give time for any symptoms to manifest themselves.

OTT? Paranoid? I was surrounded by other paranoid people. Quite what they did when they got home...

And in the last 2 days the rate of growth in C19 numbers in the Almeria region has dropped. The curve might just be flattening.
 
Friends in India fwded a whatsapp message ‘ *Riots in London due to unavailability of food items . FAKE NEWS: I was sent this clip on social media with the words “Just received now* .
*Probably tonight Total UK will be locked down . Army Personnels being seen coming on streets* . ? ? ?... these are clips from 2011 Riots in London. “

This was followed by video of 2011 London riots.. What kind of deuchbags do these.. what is the point in this fear mongering
 
Well, they have said 20,000 deaths would be a good outcome, so only about 1% through this...
I’m guessing a good outcome is based on people actually following what the government is saying, but looking at the pictures from Brighton, Snowdonia, Skegness etc this weekend, I don’t believe there’ll be a “good” outcome.
People are simply to thick and selfish.

Call in the army, enforce lock down and start handing out fines and arrest people.
 
Mudball said:
Friends in India fwded a whatsapp message ‘ *Riots in London due to unavailability of food items . FAKE NEWS: I was sent this clip on social media with the words “Just received now* .
*Probably tonight Total UK will be locked down . Army Personnels being seen coming on streets* . ? ? ?... these are clips from 2011 Riots in London. “

This was followed by video of 2011 London riots.. What kind of deuchbags do these.. what is the point in this fear mongering
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Problem is that these video clips are out there on the internet. Someone spots it while trawling, doesn't note the date and starts sharing it because they think it's up to date
Not necessarily people doing it maliciously, people just need to think about what they do and say.
The world is a fragile place at the moment and the wrong video at the wrong time and it could explode....
 
Swinglowandslow said:
We also need a bit of thinking out of the box and imagination by people running quango type things, e.g. R.s.p.b, Nat trust, etc.
People isolating and being told to exercise means walks in countryside are not frowned on (yet)- mental well being and so on.
So, why aren't gates not left permanently open ( livestock retention permitting). With appropriate notices saying why.
Walkers opening and closing gates after each other etc...
Come on... such organisations have well paid execs. Get acting.
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I think the Nat Trust have closed all their properties from last night. They just get too busy.
 
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