ger147
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You should have got a better solicitor...
Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?
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You should have got a better solicitor...
hovis
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??. This is actually a standing joke at work
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Can’t beat the old “man up” from the rough and rugged 20th century man - who mainly can’t understand that everyone’s brain works differently
hovis
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I certainly don't think this attitude of covering your children in cotton wool helps anyone in the future. There's nothing wrong with preparing your children for the challenges they will face later on in life as long as its proportionate
Kellfire
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And one man destroys the existence of a huge swathe of mental illness in one fell swoop.
Concentrate on Covid-19 next, please?
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That’s bit different to what you posted though isn’t it - pretty much dismissive of the affects of Covid on young peoples mental health , as I said it’s just the standard Neanderthal man up you read from people who prob think it’s a sign of weakness to have a mental illness
hovis
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Not at all. I think mental illness is a big issue. I just think too many people try and squeeze under this umbrella. Feeling blue, having a few sleepless nights and having worries about your future is not a mental illness.
I think some people need help, professional help. I also think some people need to "man up" dust themselves off and realise life is tough and move forward.
SocketRocket
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I just don't understand why he keeps posting about his Son, we've seen it about half a dozen times now. I see the normal suspects are complaining about what others post but don't offer Hogie any advice.
I gave my opinion on his Sons situation, if he only wants replies that sympathise with his situation then this is never going to be the place to find it.
I gave my opinion on his Sons situation, if he only wants replies that sympathise with his situation then this is never going to be the place to find it.
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He posts about his Son because he can, the same people reply over and over again to him because they can.
Why can’t those ”usual suspects” stop offering their advice like you have?
Kellfire
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Maybe he’s explaining how coronavirus has affected his son’s life and by proxy his, as per the thread title?
Perhaps venting it on here allows him to put things into perspective?
Or perhaps he should just man up, his son should man up, we ALL should man up and just eat bricks, punch windows and be overall much more masculine and between us we can testosterone away this pandemic! HEAR ME ROAR.
GB72
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OK, I know that I am going to be unpopular about this but it just strikes me that the amount of sympathy and calls for support that you get is very much dependent on the job that you have. During the credit crunch certain elements of the legal profession were cut down to the core, there were mass redundancies in estate agency, mortgage advice, house building etc but the response at the time was more akin to 'serves them right' and there was no support available. Nobody at the time as calling for any help from these industries and professions and none was given. I lost my job at the time and so I worked bar jobs, supermarket jobs etc until I could get a job more suited to what I had trained to do. When I could find a job, it was a 2 hour drive to work every morning and so I was leaving home at 5.30 in the morning and getting back at 9.00 at night sometimes. Nearly cost me everything doing that for 2 years but it was the only option out there.
Not saying that this as a 'man up' post or anything else like that but at least those suffering hardship at the moment have the support of the general public who wants the arts, hospitality etc to get back on their feet. It really is a bad place when you have lost your job, your industry is in pieces and the public are, at best, ambivalent to what happen and in a number of cases actually happy that your profession is collapsing.
Not saying that this as a 'man up' post or anything else like that but at least those suffering hardship at the moment have the support of the general public who wants the arts, hospitality etc to get back on their feet. It really is a bad place when you have lost your job, your industry is in pieces and the public are, at best, ambivalent to what happen and in a number of cases actually happy that your profession is collapsing.
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So how do you judge who is “squeezing under the umbrella” as you call
Sleepless nights , feeling down , worrying about future - all potential issues with both anxiety and mental illness and if untreated can get worse
No one should ever tell some to “man up” “dust themselves down” and carry on - it’s that sort of thinking projected making people scared to speak out or seek help and then downward spiral - each person thinks differently , you maybe a bit rough and ready man’s man who can just shrug your shoulders and move on - not everyone thinks that way. Don’t judge everyone on your standards when it comes to mental health - it’s dangerous
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SocketRocket
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My point is they aren't offering Hogan advice, they are rather critisising others advice.
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Could SilH's son do more to alleviate his financial situation?
Quite possibly.
But would that, at the same time, help him deal with the mental health issues?
Almost certainly not.
The latter will be far more deep rooted than just worries over paying bills etc; and involve many other aspects of how he views his life.
I have suffered from severe depression and it first hit me when I was in a secure well paid job, happily married with two healthy children.
What had I got to worry about?
On the face of it nothing, but the mind is a deep place and none of us know when or why it might lead us into some very difficult and dark places.
Please , if you cannot at least empathise with Hogie's family's issues, just move on and keep the "man up" advice out of it.
As I see it he is not asking for sympathy for his son's financial predicament but merely detailing the effect that it's having upon their mental wellbeing as a family.
Quite possibly.
But would that, at the same time, help him deal with the mental health issues?
Almost certainly not.
The latter will be far more deep rooted than just worries over paying bills etc; and involve many other aspects of how he views his life.
I have suffered from severe depression and it first hit me when I was in a secure well paid job, happily married with two healthy children.
What had I got to worry about?
On the face of it nothing, but the mind is a deep place and none of us know when or why it might lead us into some very difficult and dark places.
Please , if you cannot at least empathise with Hogie's family's issues, just move on and keep the "man up" advice out of it.
As I see it he is not asking for sympathy for his son's financial predicament but merely detailing the effect that it's having upon their mental wellbeing as a family.
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I think that’s a fair response, I will say though, I don’t think too many were intentionally unsympathetic to the sons mental anguish. It’s more that for probably a year it’s been documented about the career struggles. Long before covid. So it comes across at times that he was claiming Covid caused all the problems when In truth his sons choices put him in a pickle.
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And does any of that alter the fact that his mental health and his family's is affected?
The response of some would suggest that they haven't fully read SilH's post nor understand the thread title.
P.S. Having re-read this I am aware that it might seem I am including you in that criticism.
I am not.
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No it doesn't change his sons problem.
I'm just giving a reason as to why some will be less sympathetic when there must have been half a dozen threads about the problems he faced and the wall he would put up when even sensible advise was given.
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Some are less sympathetic because of the poster as opposed to the content - the poster has had strong views on some very recent issues (Brexit etc ) and been the polar opposite of opinion of those same opinion ( hence why various threads were mentioned ) - there is a lot of posting against the poster as opposed to the content
I have avoided pretty much all the brexit content. I was simply stating what I've seen on multiple threads about his son. Which is what I consider as various threads.
There may be others. But I've seen enough on the threads I mention to understand some peoples frustration in their responses.