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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

Beezerk said:
Christ, you moan about EVERYTHING dont you ?
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No I don't - but I don't like seeing or hearing something being sold to us as something that it isn't. And so despite the assurances we were given - it isn't the answer. I know the answer...and it's what @bobmac is evangelical about. But many would, and do, moan about that.
 
Traminator said:
Consolation???

What consolation do you crave?

It's extremely simple, you use the App or you use the sign-in and out sheets if you don't have an up to date mobile.

It cant really be any simpler. ?‍♂️
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I do not crave ANY consolation. If I am not able to access somewhere providing something I need because I do not have the app (hopefully that isn't going to be the case), then any pleasure or satisfaction I might get from walking away is not going to be that much consolation for me.

What would help would be if I was to get a grant from the government to enable me to upgrade my phone...:) Not going to happen though is it.
 
Lord Tyrion said:
Older phones cannot download the app as they do not have the capability of accurately judging the distance required, 2m. Don't blame others for this. No one realised 5 years ago that a phone would be required to accurately bluetooth judge a 2m distance.

This is an issue for all countries as most are using the Google/apple system.
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Not blaming anyone - though perhaps a little less of mis-selling of the app as the answer would have been helpful. Just set expectations appropriately - all that was and is required - that and a bit of explanation about how not having the app need not matter...
 
Seeing as I am constantly reminded that those on benefits are spending their money on IPhone 11s and not food for their kids, an assumption may have made that most people have an up to date smart phone nowadays. Even my dad has this app on his phone, and he is really old and technophobic.
 
Hacker Khan said:
Seeing as I am constantly reminded that those on benefits are spending their money on IPhone 11s and not food for their kids, an assumption may have made that most people have an up to date smart phone nowadays. Even my dad has this app on his phone, and he is really old and technophobic.
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I am feeling that my children's description of me as being a 'technotard' is closer to the truth than I appreciated. That said - I only really use my phone for calls, messaging and WhatsApp - and a little bit of 'on-line' stuff. And that's it. Why do I need a more up-to-date phone? Ah - for the App :)
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
I am feeling that my children's description of me as being a 'technotard' is closer to the truth than I appreciated. That said - I only really use my phone for calls, messaging and WhatsApp - and a little bit of 'on-line' stuff. And that's it. Why do I need a more up-to-date phone? Ah - for the App :)
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I think Sunak should do a Phone Upgrade Scheme for everyone in the country.. The Govt needs to do more

(this is not a serious post before anyone gets too excited :) )
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Rats! There was me thinking of putting up a marquee in my back garden for a jolly old champagne and canapes garden party - to find out that that's the sort of thing likely to see me being reported by my neighbours...sooo disappointing...;)

Just as well that I've had that clarified to prevent me making silly mistakes due to misunderstanding of the rules...

Anyway - must get on with downloading the app.
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https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co....-party-organiser-marquee-45-people-live-band/
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
I am feeling that my children's description of me as being a 'technotard' is closer to the truth than I appreciated. That said - I only really use my phone for calls, messaging and WhatsApp - and a little bit of 'on-line' stuff. And that's it. Why do I need a more up-to-date phone? Ah - for the App :)
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You don't need the app, if you can run it great, but there is no requirement for it.
 
Beezerk said:
Christ, you moan about EVERYTHING dont you ?
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SwingsitlikeHogan said:
No I don't - but I don't like seeing or hearing something being sold to us as something that it isn't. And so despite the assurances we were given - it isn't the answer. I know the answer...and it's what @bobmac is evangelical about. But many would, and do, moan about that.
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Oh, yes you do.

I can really picture myself how you're going from venue to venue for hours in the hope of someone refusing you entry cause you do not have the app installed, just so you can throw yourself over the keyboard to tell us all about it.
 
Billysboots said:
You should be offered the alternative option of signing in and leaving contact details.

I have the app but, if I didn’t, if any business refused me entry solely because I didn’t have a device which supports the app, and didn’t allow me to sign in as an alternative, I simply wouldn’t return. Pandemic or no pandemic.
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Nobody should be refusing entry on the premise of the app on your phone though I’ve read that is what’s happening.
They should provide you with a pen and paper.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
I am feeling that my children's description of me as being a 'technotard' is closer to the truth than I appreciated. That said - I only really use my phone for calls, messaging and WhatsApp - and a little bit of 'on-line' stuff. And that's it. Why do I need a more up-to-date phone? Ah - for the App :)
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Nowadays security is very important. As scammers rarely get the tech aware users with the latest security.
 
Jamesbrown said:
Nobody should be refusing entry on the premise of the app on your phone though I’ve read that is what’s happening.
They should provide you with a pen and paper.
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You’re absolutely right they shouldn’t. But I know of at least two pubs near me doing just that. You either have the app or they’re not letting you in - no option to write your details down.
 
Billysboots said:
You’re absolutely right they shouldn’t. But I know of at least two pubs near me doing just that. You either have the app or they’re not letting you in - no option to write your details down.
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I don’t blame them tbh, there is no way for the publican to check the details given are correct and there has been reports of people giving false information.
 
Billysboots said:
You’re absolutely right they shouldn’t. But I know of at least two pubs near me doing just that. You either have the app or they’re not letting you in - no option to write your details down.
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A pointless exercise as you can install it but not use it, they are simply driving away trade for no good reason.
 
Lilyhawk said:
Oh, yes you do.

I can really picture myself how you're going from venue to venue for hours in the hope of someone refusing you entry cause you do not have the app installed, just so you can throw yourself over the keyboard to tell us all about it.
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Really - well you might as you don't know me...

But as mentioned - @bobmac has the answer - we don't go out...:)
 
Hacker Khan said:
Nowadays security is very important. As scammers rarely get the tech aware users with the latest security.
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OK - good reasons - though I don't use my phone to pay for anything; I don't access my bank account using it; and though I can read emails I tend to not reply to any - and certainly wouldn't be clicking on any links in an email I read on my phone.
 
pauldj42 said:
I don’t blame them tbh, there is no way for the publican to check the details given are correct and there has been reports of people giving false information.
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It’s in the government guidelines not to use it as a prerequisite of entry and collect information by other means.

So they are breaking guidelines.

I could go in with airplane mode on, scan the code and register a check in and nobody none the wiser and the app not working. The app doesn’t even know my name or have my details bar the first part of my post code.

It’s just a theory but the QR code is just text in an image so shouldn’t require any wireless connection. Wasn’t planning on going inside a pub again but I am willing to give it a go if needs be to prove.
 
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