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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

robinthehood said:
A pointless exercise as you can install it but not use it, they are simply driving away trade for no good reason.
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Hmmm. I’m slightly puzzled as to why anyone would install such an app and then not use it. Unless, of course, they wanted to try and pull the wool over someone’s eyes simply to get into a pub by showing them the app icon and saying “I’ve got the app - mine’s a lager”.

Easier just to use it, surely.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
I do not crave ANY consolation. If I am not able to access somewhere providing something I need because I do not have the app (hopefully that isn't going to be the case), then any pleasure or satisfaction I might get from walking away is not going to be that much consolation for me.

What would help would be if I was to get a grant from the government to enable me to upgrade my phone...:) Not going to happen though is it.
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OMG! I'm going to go out and do the Euromillions lottery! When I saw this part of the thread developing I, jokingly, said to myself Hogie will be on soon saying that the govt will have to give all those without the latest phone some Universal Credit payment to go out and buy one. I don't know whether that's a sad indictment or just plain hilarious.
 
Billysboots said:
Hmmm. I’m slightly puzzled as to why anyone would install such an app and then not use it. Unless, of course, they wanted to try and pull the wool over someone’s eyes simply to get into a pub by showing them the app icon and saying “I’ve got the app - mine’s a lager”.

Easier just to use it, surely.
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Maybe they wouldn’t want to know they have covid because they would have to self isolate and their job only pays SSP and can’t afford to be on £93 a week?
 
Billysboots said:
Hmmm. I’m slightly puzzled as to why anyone would install such an app and then not use it. Unless, of course, they wanted to try and pull the wool over someone’s eyes simply to get into a pub by showing them the app icon and saying “I’ve got the app - mine’s a lager”.

Easier just to use it, surely.
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Yes
 
Jamesbrown said:
Maybe they wouldn’t want to know they have covid because they would have to self isolate and their job only pays SSP and can’t afford to be on £93 a week?
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It’s so comforting to know there are people out there who couldn’t care less if they gave this disease to others, those others potentially being at high risk of succumbing to it ?

I get that people can’t afford to be on £93 a week. But anyone whose moral compass is so skewed that they are more comfortable spreading COVID to all and sundry than being skint for a fortnight needs to have a word with themselves.
 
Lord Tyrion said:
I hope you are right ?
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Some extra guidance..

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people have noticed that while you can log in you cannot log out, and even if you soon leave the app thinks you are still there until midnight unless you log in somewhere else.
The point however of the QR scan is just to register your presence at that location rather than your proximity to someone infectious, which is registered via the Bluetooth contact-tracing feature.
If the location is later identified as a virus hotspot then an alert may be sent out to anyone who scanned a QR code there - not to self-isolate, but to be on the lookout for any symptoms of the virus.
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robinthehood said:
A pointless exercise as you can install it but not use it, they are simply driving away trade for no good reason.
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Nope - just tried to download the App and I couldn't - with the message 'This application requires iOS 13.5 or later..You must update to iOS 13.5 in order to download and use this application'.

Ah well - will have to go looking for places to refuse me entry as I don't have the App ;) But I tried.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Really - well you might as you don't know me...

But as mentioned - @bobmac has the answer - we don't go out...:)
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The initial message was to stay in unless your journey is essential, I still stick to that advice.
I am lucky, I'm retired and dont have to go to work so it's easy for me.
But if more men, women, young and old took this more seriously, we wouldn't still be in this situation.

Covid 19 death toll is now over 1 million and people are still arguing about going to the pub.
 
We all praise Singapore on how it is containing the virus despite higher population density.... trackers and checkins are now almost mandatory.. The shortcomings of the technical solution aside, we seem to moan when we have to use an App or when we dont have to.
 
robinthehood said:
you've misunderstood my post
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Ah - yes I did - sorry. Nonetheless - I failed...and I also failed with the Scottish App for same reason (though iOS at 13.0 is all that is required for that one).

Would MUCH prefer to be using the app than not. But hey ho. Until the government (or Vodafone LOL) pays for an upgrade to our phones me and my mrs will just have to do without :(
 
Mudball said:
We all praise Singapore on how it is containing the virus despite higher population density.... trackers and checkins are now almost mandatory.. The shortcomings of the technical solution aside, we seem to moan when we have to use an App or when we dont have to.
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I think it’s very much a British trait. Let’s be honest, if we spent half as much time just cracking on with things as we did moaning about the whys and wherefores, life would be so much easier.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Ah - yes I did - sorry. Nonetheless - I failed...and I also failed with the Scottish App for same reason (though iOS at 13.0 is all that is required for that one).

Would MUCH prefer to be using the app than not. But hey ho. Until the government (or Vodafone LOL) pays for an upgrade to our phones me and my mrs will just have to do without :(
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You could purchase a phone capable of running this App for as little as £50, it would also ensure you could use any other apps that upgrade their operating system, for around £140 you could buy one that is fast with a lot of memory and processing speed. I appreciate you don't use your phone a lot but technology does move on and old devices will not have the processing ability to keep up, I'm afraid this is the way of the World we live in.

I'm not trying to be sarcastic here Hogie, just pointing out the reality.
 
SocketRocket said:
You could purchase a phone capable of running this App for as little as £50, it would also ensure you could use any other apps that upgrade their operating system, for around £140 you could buy one that is fast with a lot of memory and processing speed. I appreciate you don't use your phone a lot but technology does move on and old devices will not have the processing ability to keep up, I'm afraid this is the way of the World we live in.

I'm not trying to be sarcastic here Hogie, just pointing out the reality.
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Actually - you have reminded me that I already have a cheap LG (Android) phone that I could use - we bought it when we were in Oz so that we could have an Oz telephone mobile number and a Telstra SIM. That aside - as a perhaps temp measure my work phone is Android and maybe I can download the app onto that. (y)

...Sorted - App downloaded and installed on my Work phone...:)
 
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SwingsitlikeHogan said:
I do not crave ANY consolation. If I am not able to access somewhere providing something I need because I do not have the app (hopefully that isn't going to be the case), then any pleasure or satisfaction I might get from walking away is not going to be that much consolation for me.

What would help would be if I was to get a grant from the government to enable me to upgrade my phone...:) Not going to happen though is it.
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Blimey, you want the government to shell out for everything. I'm no techie but I don't think there is any new app which is likely to be fully useable by every smartphone of whatever vintage.
So, yours won't work with this app. .? Can it not download the latest software without becoming knackered? ( I understand that is the case sometimes)
If so, that's no ones fault, that's technology.
But many phones will use the app, enough to help towards what it is trying to achieve.
I do not go out to hospitality places, so I do not put myself ( apart from my household) within 2 metres of anyone for fifteen minutes at a time.
I socialise only outdoors -golf-.
I want to spend time indoors with others. I miss doing it, particular with the family and at the Clubhouse, but that would put too many at a risk .
So I don't.
So making me an evangelist like Bobmac?, that's my choice.
I don't expect the government to give me a grant to do otherwise, when it's not necessary.


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I have a relatively recent iPhone, so can download it, but I think there is a valid point to be made. It is normal practice to determine the uptakability (?) of an app by the desired target audience. For this app, you need to start with the smartphone audience, so you lose some older people and technophobes right away, then if it has to be certain platforms or reasonably recent you will lose some more, and those losses all eat into the uptake rate you require.

Adopting a monastic life of seclusion like bobmac is doable for a short period but it starts to get difficult after a while.
 
Swinglowandslow said:
Blimey, you want the government to shell out for everything. I'm no techie but I don't think there is any new app which is likely to be fully useable by every smartphone of whatever vintage.
So, yours won't work with this app. .? Can it not download the latest software without becoming knackered? ( I understand that is the case sometimes)
If so, that's no ones fault, that's technology.
But many phones will use the app, enough to help towards what it is trying to achieve.
I do not go out to hospitality places, so I do not put myself ( apart from my household) within 2 metres of anyone for fifteen minutes at a time.
I socialise only outdoors -golf-.
I want to spend time indoors with others. I miss doing it, particular with the family and at the Clubhouse, but that would put too many at a risk .
So I don't.
So making me an evangelist like Bobmac?, that's my choice.
I don't expect the government to give me a grant to do otherwise, when it's not necessary.


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My suggestion that the government funds a phone upgrade for technotards such as I was (more than just a little) T-i-C...but you never know what might be done to curry favour among the disenchanted and/or confused.

However - almost seriously - it might actually be worthwhile sorting something for the over 70s...after all - providing a new phone would be cheaper than restoring free BBC TV licence for that age group.
 
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