Cook and Trott Out

[richart]

Good shout on dropping Ballance. Only scored 4 hundreds and three fifties in nine tests, averaging 60.:mmm: One bad innings and calls for his head.

 

[fundy]

For those wanting to pick Rashid hes in horrid form and could barely pitch it in the warm up game on all accounts. That these are the 2 spinners vying for the role shows just how bare the cupboard it (especially as Root looked a bigger threat than Tredders last night!) Wont be long till they resort back to Moeen once hes fit I expect

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Some people blossom more at higher levels. Trescothick was an average county player for his early years but became one of Englands finest opening batsmen, certainly one of the most destructive. Duncan Fletcher saw something in him and boy was he right. I used to love watching him stand tall and pummel the ball straight back past the bowler.

Today could be interesting. Wicket is getting flatter. We may need WI to self destruct a little.

Trescothick was under 19 England captain with a fantastic record for them but had up and down years with footwork being an issue

Fletcher went to watch a different player at Glamorgan but then watched Bangers smash them for 167

 

[Dan2501]

Tresco's footwork (or lack of) was an issue throughout his career. Reliant on his amazing hand-eye co-ordination and timing. He was very much our version of Sehwag. It's amazing he got as many runs as he did in England with his technique.

 

[Beezerk]

I'm no cricket expert, more a casual fan who follows England's tests but watching Trott last week he looked way out of his depth, Mr Twitchy from Twitchville. And then today, yet another failure.
What the heck are the selectors playing at by keeping him in the firing line when he's quite obviously struggling big style!

 

[Tongo]

I'm no cricket expert, more a casual fan who follows England's tests but watching Trott last week he looked way out of his depth, Mr Twitchy from Twitchville. And then today, yet another failure.
What the heck are the selectors playing at by keeping him in the firing line when he's quite obviously struggling big style!

His international career is over but the selectors, for some reason known only to themselves, gave him the gig rather than Adam Lyth, a genuine opener. That sort of tomfoolery sums up England at the moment. Both players had played well enough last summer to warrant a place in the team but Trott appears to have got the nod on his past record. They should have said to him that its great he's available for international selection but there's another decent number 3 now so he's gonna have to wait. Instead they rammed another square peg into a round hole and England are approaching the summer with question marks over the opening partnership.

 

[Crow]

I thought this was about preparing a quick meal before going out for the night!

Got a strange look from my wife when I laughed out loud at that one.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Trott has to go. Another shocking failure.

 

[pokerjoke]

Well done Cookie back on the ton trail.

 

[Junior]

Trott has to go. Another shocking failure.

I feel for him a little bit. He is not an opener, yet, they are opening with him. They have an opening batsmen in the squad so play him. I get frustrated when I see this with English cricket....harks back to the old days where they continuously kept dropping and recalling players.

Glad Cooks proved is naysayers wrong. He'll go down in history as one of the best English batsmen to play test cricket and rightly so. Flies under the radar because his style is old school but his record speaks for itself. Those who were calling for his head (including the terrible sky sports commentary team) should eat their words. Forms temporay.......class is permanent.

 

[Tongo]

I feel for him a little bit. He is not an opener, yet, they are opening with him. They have an opening batsmen in the squad so play him. I get frustrated when I see this with English cricket....harks back to the old days where they continuously kept dropping and recalling players.

Glad Cooks proved is naysayers wrong. He'll go down in history as one of the best English batsmen to play test cricket and rightly so. Flies under the radar because his style is old school but his record speaks for itself. Those who were calling for his head (including the terrible sky sports commentary team) should eat their words. Forms temporay.......class is permanent.

Lets see how he gets on against the more testing attacks of NZ and Australia first.

 

[Junior]

Lets see how he gets on against the more testing attacks of NZ and Australia first.

Fair point but I'd rather him be opening against those teams than anyone else right now.

Actually our batting through the side doesn't worry me, especially with good young players like Taylor, Lyth and Hales waiting in the wings.......now the third seamer and back up opening bowler.....that's a conundrum .....

 

[Tongo]

Fair point but I'd rather him be opening against those teams than anyone else right now.

Actually our batting through the side doesn't worry me, especially with good young players like Taylor, Lyth and Hales waiting in the wings.......now the third seamer and back up opening bowler.....that's a conundrum .....

I feel sorry for Lyth. He should have been next up after Robson but has been erroneously overlooked. England's bowling cupboard does look bare and if either/both Anderson and Broad over the summer were injured they would be in trouble.

 

[fundy]

I feel sorry for Lyth. He should have been next up after Robson but has been erroneously overlooked. England's bowling cupboard does look bare and if either/both Anderson and Broad over the summer were injured they would be in trouble.

not sure Broad gonna be much of a loss, looks well past his best of late, not to mention scared of the ball when batting. Be surprised if he lasts the summer out personally.

Andersen however needs to be wrapped in cotton wool lol because we're going to be over reliant on him it seems

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Would like to see Overton a go in the summer

Think he is going to be cracking - also add Dockerall as a proper test spinner

 

[Junior]

I feel sorry for Lyth. He should have been next up after Robson but has been erroneously overlooked. England's bowling cupboard does look bare and if either/both Anderson and Broad over the summer were injured they would be in trouble.

Me too, he should have played for Trott. He deserves his chance. I like Trott as a number 3, but to be thrust back in as an opener was unfair to him too.

 

[fundy]

Would like to see Overton a go in the summer

Think he is going to be cracking - also add Dockerall as a proper test spinner

not seen much of Overton this year, looked as though he was a yard of pace short of where he needed to be last year but definitely one with potential, but hes barely bowled any overs yet this season it seems.

as for Dockrell, not sure hes played any cricket at all yet this year in the CC

any of the guys wanting a go really have to go and get wickets in the domestic game to force the selectors hands (not that anyone has got hatfuls yet)

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Whether Trott is an opener or not, and even batting at three, chances are he's going to face the quick bowlers regularly (especially given the way we've opened innings in the last year or so) and either way, he's desperately short of confidence and technique and with many younger options coming through now is the time to give then a chance.

I am pleased to see Cook get back to some form but still not convinced that when the Ashes start, or even against NZ he won't start to struggle again. I hope he has turned the corner but I fear this is still painting over some cracks

 

[Deleted member 15344]

not seen much of Overton this year, looked as though he was a yard of pace short of where he needed to be last year but definitely one with potential, but hes barely bowled any overs yet this season it seems.

as for Dockrell, not sure hes played any cricket at all yet this year in the CC

any of the guys wanting a go really have to go and get wickets in the domestic game to force the selectors hands (not that anyone has got hatfuls yet)

Jamie started his career well but has stagnated a little - Craig jumped ahead recently but think overall Jamie is better bowler with Craig more the all rounder - if they can work on Craig's bowling he could be another Freddie

Dockrill still getting back to fitness after an injury after WC I understand - should certainly give him a go in the ODI at some point because he can get the ball spinning and lot of variety


Lyth I think will open against the Kiwis but still an issue with Jordan IMO don't think he will ever be a bowler to take wickets consistently and someone to worry the oppo

Cook was always going to recapture his form - many have written him off in the past only for him to shove big runs down their throats and you can see the confidence growing in him again now and a big scoring Cook will be a massive boost for the ashes

 

[HomerJSimpson]

At least the bowlers are doing ok. Not happy with the balance of the attack and think Broad looks jaded and we have lacked a world class spinner since Swann left