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Will be a good choice for them
I still would prefer to see us not look at an Aussie - I wouldn't expect to see Australia appoint a Pom regardless of ability
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Will be a good choice for them
I still would prefer to see us not look at an Aussie - I wouldn't expect to see Australia appoint a Pom regardless of ability
fundy
Ryder Cup Winner
Tend to agree, if its gonna be an aussie its more likely to be Dizzy with him having been in county cricket for a few years, not sure he'd accept even if offered tho!
fundy
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Just what Strauss wanted at the start of his tenure, Pietersen being 150 not out for Surrey in a county championship game lol
Dan2501
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It should be exactly what England want. Why wouldn't you want a top class international batsman in prime form ahead of a summer where we're playing 2 Test teams with the strongest bowling attacks in world cricket? Pietersen should be treated like all other batsmen, if he's good enough to play, and is one of the best players we have, he should be picked. I'd pick him, but I think you all know that by now. Right now I'd be going with:
Cook
Lyth
Ballance
Pietersen
Bell
Root
Buttler
Moeen
Plunkett
Broad
Anderson
For the first Test!
Cook
Lyth
Ballance
Pietersen
Bell
Root
Buttler
Moeen
Plunkett
Broad
Anderson
For the first Test!
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Pieterson should never and IMO will never be picked for England again - this is the same person that wrote a book insulting all his teammates and that's not even discussing his selfish attitude when playing- he burnt his bridges a long time ago and I believe England have got past Pieterson never playing for them again and it's time for media and others to realise that - no matter how many runs he scores.
fundy
Ryder Cup Winner
Not a lot of bowling if its a flat one at Lords! No chance we only go in with 3 seamers and a part time spinner with no medium pace all rounders, way too unbalanced that
Dan2501
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Moeen Ali is not a part-time spinner. We don't need 5 or 6 bowlers. 3 quicks, spin from Moeen and part-time stuff from Root is plenty of bowling.
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If Ali is not a part time spinner then he is a poor main front line spinner
The line up does need another bowler
Stokes will be in the line up IMO
Cook
Lyth/Hales
Ballance
Bell
Root
Ali
Buttler
Stokes
Broad
Anderson
Plunkett/Woakes/Jordan
Fundy, you just beat me to it. Moeen is not good enough to do the Swann job and Plunkett is best used as an impact bowler in short bursts. If you are going in with 3 seamers, bad idea, then you need a Bresnan who can bowl all day and a reliable spinner which we currently do not have. I would have Plunkett in, probably Wood from Durham as well. It rarely spins at Lords so I would drop Moeen and play another bowler, possibly Bresnan as he is a reliable workhorse who has started the season well.
Whatever happens we desparately need to find a dedicated spin bowler as the attack is short without one and thinking you can turn a part time bowler into a full time one is deluded thinking. (If you think Moeen is a proper spin bowler then see how many overs Worcs get out of him)
As for Pietersen I am with LP. Never again, move on.
Whatever happens we desparately need to find a dedicated spin bowler as the attack is short without one and thinking you can turn a part time bowler into a full time one is deluded thinking. (If you think Moeen is a proper spin bowler then see how many overs Worcs get out of him)
As for Pietersen I am with LP. Never again, move on.
Dan2501
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Ali was superb last summer against the 2 best countries at playing spin-bowling, something that people seem to have forgotten incredibly quickly. People judging him on a game where he had literally just come back from a bad abdominal injury with no cricket are incredibly harsh. Moeen is a front-line spinner, and a very good one.
Not sure what Stokes offers TBH. Average with the ball, average with the bat. Against the world-class bowling attacks we're facing this summer, I'd like as much batting as possible.
Hales is a good shout to open though, is in some serious form. Hasn't been opening for Notts though, and isn't generally an opener in FC cricket; typically comes in at first drop.
Not sure what Stokes offers TBH. Average with the ball, average with the bat. Against the world-class bowling attacks we're facing this summer, I'd like as much batting as possible.
Hales is a good shout to open though, is in some serious form. Hasn't been opening for Notts though, and isn't generally an opener in FC cricket; typically comes in at first drop.
fundy
Ryder Cup Winner
lol and Andersen and Broad burnt out before we even get to the ashes. In a year when we play 17 tests one thing is for sure we wont be going in with less than 5 bowlers in any of them
fundy
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look around county cricket and this is going to be an ongoing problem it seems, the cupboard is very very bare sadly, very few putting there hand up for a go
Dan2501
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Can someone explain what exactly Moeen Ali has done wrong? And why he is suddenly not the best spinner in the country?
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I believe Ali and Stokes have played the same amount of tests - Stokes has over a hundred more runs but three less wickets
For a front line spinner his record isn't great at all
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Would look at Briggs and Dockerall as a start but can't see many that will bring the same as what Swann didn
fundy
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Not necessarily whats he done wrong, but he is a part time spinner who England are trying to use as a frontline spinner. One decent home summer against 2 very poor sides gives him the role for a bit, but personally dont see him as a long term option as anything more than a batter who bowls which is what he has always been for Worcs. Expect NZ and especially Australia to go after him this summer, if there is no help from the tracks he is going to be under a lot of pressure
fundy
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not a Briggs fan in the longer format, just doesnt turn it enough or have wicket taking variety (too much a limited overs bowler, like Tredwell and sadly the majority of our spin options nowadays). Dockerall could be an interesting one
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He has never been the best spinner in the country
He is a decent part time bowler - that's about it - same with Root
Ali is a perfectly decent part time spinner. With regards to being a dedicated spinner, he doesn't hit the spot enough, he doesn't build pressure, he doesn't get a spinners loop, he doesn't get sufficient turn. A number of his wickets last year, IMO, came from batsmen not taking him seriously and getting themselves out. Now that is an opinion but I don't see a threat in his bowling. Fine in one day but in test cricket it is not enough.
Agree again with Fundy about a bare cupboard which is another reason why not playing Rashid in the WI was unfathomable. We could have found out if he was good enough and if he was he could have got confidence from playing and bowling. If not then the search would continue.
Agree again with Fundy about a bare cupboard which is another reason why not playing Rashid in the WI was unfathomable. We could have found out if he was good enough and if he was he could have got confidence from playing and bowling. If not then the search would continue.
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What about Kerrigan ?
Borthwick seems like if he concentrated a bit more on bowling he could be useful ?
