Cook and Trott Out

[fundy]

Turns out there were cameras at Taunton yesterday for Gayles inns, this is the sort ov coverage I was talking about LP. Just a shame they dont find a way to have these online live

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4XefLrWhDk&feature=youtu.be

 

[Dan2501]

England's bowling at tail-enders continues to be absolutely dire to watch. Hit the stumps, bowl it at their toes FFS. I swear none of the deliveries so far this morning would have hit the stumps.

 

[Dan2501]

Somebody should ban Stuart Broad from bowling at the tail. He's absolutely awful at bowling at lower-order batsmen. Get it on their toes. We've lost. Only rain can save us now.

 

[rickg]

454 to win...what could possibly go wrong?

 

[Dan2501]

0% yorkers. Pathetic.

 

[Tongo]

Somebody should ban Stuart Broad from bowling at the tail. He's absolutely awful at bowling at lower-order batsmen. Get it on their toes. We've lost. Only rain can save us now.

They've learnt nothing from the World Cup. I'm guessing the tactics were bang it in short ad infinitum?

 

[Tongo]

Remember how people were guffawing at NZ's tactics in the last test of going for broke rather than batting time? Bet their not guffawing now.

I like the way McCullum has obviously decided that England wont get 455 and declared rather than needlessly batting on until NZ were bowled out.

 

[Dan2501]

They've learnt nothing from the World Cup. I'm guessing the tactics were bang it in short ad infinitum?

Correct. Wood bowled very well, and was unlucky not to pick up Watling, but Broad was awful. Short, nothing deliveries that got spanked, 3 sixes off his last over, all pathetic short/back-of-a-length deliveries that were asking to be smashed. He's always been rubbish bowling to the tail, yet despite years of failure, continues to believe that short is the way to go. Moronic bowling.

 

[fundy]

Remember how people were guffawing at NZ's tactics in the last test of going for broke rather than batting time? Bet their not guffawing now.

I like the way McCullum has obviously decided that England wont get 455 and declared rather than needlessly batting on until NZ were bowled out.

large dose of weather forecast in the declaration too. almost certain we lose overs this afternoon and again tomorrow, he actually went further than he prob planned as runs were coming so quickly

 

[Tongo]

Correct. Wood bowled very well, and was unlucky not to pick up Watling, but Broad was awful. Short, nothing deliveries that got spanked, 3 sixes off his last over, all pathetic short/back-of-a-length deliveries that were asking to be smashed. He's always been rubbish bowling to the tail, yet despite years of failure, continues to believe that short is the way to go. Moronic bowling.

Poor captaincy as well for not recognising this development.

 

[Dan2501]

Actually, in regards to Broad. I'm not sure it is entirely lack of brains, but I genuinely think he struggles to control length. It's been an issue his entire career. He must surely know that his best spells come when he pitches the ball up, but consistently bangs it in shot without reward. If Broad bowled the length Anderson bowls, he'd be a MUCH better bowler, and when he has his magic spells that's exactly what he does. He must just struggle to control his length. Either that, or he's a moron.

 

[pendodave]

It doesn't really matter why Broad is not bowling a good length (and so often fails to), if he can't do it, he shouldn't be playing international cricket. I wonder if a spell on a few chilly county grounds might encourage him to try a bit harder...

Swann (obviously biased) suggested that good spin is the way to remove tail enders. Given that Ali picked one up fairly promptly this morning, I think he speaks some sense. At least with spin they have to generate their own power, whereas with the medium quick guys any sort of contact yields another boundary.

For some reason, there's a little bit of me that things we might get out of this. Once the new ball has gone batting has been a lot more straightforward the last couple of days.

 

[Dan2501]

I agree re. Broad. Either way, it's not good enough.

Agree with Swann too. Good spin from one end, quick bowler bowling yorkers and full-length from the other.

 

[Dan2501]

That's an interesting start for Mark Craig. Some very good, and some down-right awful. His 5th one went to mid-wicket, didn't go anywhere near the pitch. The follow up was a beaut though.

 

[Dan2501]

So, erm, this is going well. Vintage England bottle this. Pathetic batting.

 

[Tongo]

Mmmm, surprised to see that score when I logged onto the internet! Good opportunity for Cook to produce a skipper's rearguard innings.

And for Stokes to prove he's more than just a run a ball man.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

At the moment Bell is simply not good enough to justify his place. Even in the last game he didn't score many and hardly troubled the scorers in the last game v the West Indies and one in the one before. Aside from the century in the drawn test in the Carribean his form has been poor

 

[Dan2501]

Who replaces him though? I'd like to see James Vince given a go, or James Taylor, but to chuck them in against the Aussies is asking a lot. KP would obviously be the ideal replacement, as there'd be no fear factor for him, and the Aussies would be wary of him, but that's not happening.

With Cook gone, we're done. Pathetic batting performance.

 

[Dan2501]

What a terrible innings that was. Moeen needs to go back to County Cricket. Time for Rashid to be given a go.

 

[richart]

At the moment Bell is simply not good enough to justify his place. Even in the last game he didn't score many and hardly troubled the scorers in the last game v the West Indies and one in the one before. Aside from the century in the drawn test in the Carribean his form has been poor

Form is temporary, class is permanent. I would also add who do you replace him with, but I think you have been asked that more than once before.

I am pretty sure Australia would rather play against a rookie test batsmen than Bell. We need experience against Australia, and if you take Bell out with are left with just Cook with more than 30 tests in the top eight.