fundy
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Its really quite boring, try taking a longer term view than posting based on what happened in the previous hour or two and claiming that provides the evidence for your view point.
Cook and Trott Out
- Thread starter HomerJSimpson
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I like cricket. However several on here so quick to laud plaudits (rightly on Lyth's maiden century and Cook looking back to form) and thinking we've turned a corner but we are still capable of imploding and collapsing. That's the main difference between a top side like Australia and SA who don't do this on a regular basis. I still think England are a long way from being at the top level of test cricket.
User20205
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They're right homer, for a fella that's supposed to be glass half full...you're a negative so & so.
Every pub has a bar room expert on every sport, the forum isn't short of em
They're right homer, for a fella that's supposed to be glass half full...you're a negative so & so.
Every pub has a bar room expert on every sport, the forum isn't short of em
Who said I'm glass half full. Trying to be positive about my golf, not something that comes easily, but never portrayed myself as anything at all. Not too fussed whether I'm perceived as negative or not. I'll give my opinion as I see it
pokerjoke
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And some by which I mean you are too quick to criticise.
Of course we can collapse at times but we play world class teams who have world class bowlers.
We play world class teams with world class bowlers...West Indies? The better sides seem to find a way to avoid collapses on such a regular basis. That's the very simple point I'm making. NZ are only fielding four bowlers as well
Tongo
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Two of those 4 bowlers are currently in the form of their lives in conditions very familiar to them whilst Matt Henry clearly has a big future in front of him. NZ's three pacemen are a quality trio.
They are and will get better. However not a patch on the Aussie and SA front line bowlers yet. Of course conditions and a pitch will make or break a bowlers performance match by match
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Think Boult is either 3rd or 4th in the rankings and Southee was in top ten as well until this test
Tongo
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Nobody said they were. But they are a decent test for those upcoming series. Unfortunately, England cant really play bowling of the same standard offered by Australia and SA until they play......Australia and SA. (Not sure how they can rectify that)
In truth, England are highly unlikely to win the Ashes but at least they are heading in the right direction.
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Trouble is everyone does it, both from a positive and a negative point.
Until today Lyth was a failure and Stokes a world-beater.
Neither is true and we should give all players a chance to develop and stop putting unrealistic expectations upon them.
At the moment whilst I still do not rate Cook as a captain I think the Test side is showing promise yet will probably get beaten by the Aussies but so what. Let's look at the bigger picture and the long term.
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Before the first test and around the KP incident every single England player bar Root was written - we were going to get a beating from New Zealand and then a thrashing in the Ashes - just as much in this thread as in the media by the experts - a lot have swallowed their own words but there is a long way to go
There is no reason why we can't beat the Aussies in the Ashes - it won't be as one sided as predicted and if we can find a spinner then we would be pretty evenly matched in England
Dan2501
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I'll admit I didn't give us a hope against New Zealand, but am very pleased to have been proven wrong. Cook looks back to form and his captaincy on the final day of the last Test was excellent, Lyth has come in and looked the part today (amazed people were writing him off after one Test in the first place), Root has continued his good form, Stokes has been a revelation, and the bowling has been very good, particularly the seam bowling. Very positive signs, and with a new coach on the way in, it could very well turn out to be a good summer for England. I'm impressed, they've turned things around very nicely after a turgid performance in the West Indies. Hopefully Ian Bell can tick himself off the cut list tomorrow with a vital big score and get his form back, if we're going to beat the Aussies, we need an in-form Bell!
We need Bell to stay around if we're to get anywhere near the NZ first innings total and he'll have plenty of time to bat himself out of the rut he's in
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Another great morning of test cricket - superb bowling from NZ but a great counter attack from tailenders.
NZ will have a small lead going into the second innings
NZ will have a small lead going into the second innings
Tongo
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These have been 2 very even, intriguing test matches. England playing more positive cricket, NZ again demonstrating that they get the very most out of a small pool of talent. Fair play to them. The next 2 sessions will be crucial.
fundy
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cracking test match going on, and even as a purist part me of me would like to be watching Gayle trying to help Zummerset chase down to 240 at Taunton. Hes got 90 already, another 50 or so and he'll get them home
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Going to end up short it looks like - amazing innings though
fundy
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hes got stuck at the non strikers end most of the last 3 overs, need 40 off 2 now! not impossible though
