club championship.......

Our club has different categories so as everyone can be involved in the club championships. Cat A (for cat 1 golfers), Cat B (for cat 2) etc etc...

The club champion can only come from the Cat A though. At least everyone gets to be involved in a championship of some kind and feel more a part of the club's big yearly event. Everyone pays the same money so should be able to enter the same number of comps, no matter how well they do in them.
 
I would have thought that the medal comps throughout the year could act as qualifying criteria. Those who perform well get invited to enter the club championship and it also ensures that sufficient cards have been put in to have accurate handicaps. If, as is often stated, low handicappers have more chance in medal comps then they should make up a majority of the field but at least everyone has had a chance to qualify
 
I had to endure a guy playing of 8 shooting 16 over for the 1st round this year. Not good. Then the 2nd round a guy playingoff 5 shooting 15 over. LOVELY.
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And who's to say that a 3 handicapper isn't going to have a bad day and shoot 10 over. Or a scratch shooting the same. What a ridiculous attitude. What's the worst you've shot since becoming Cat 1? Every week on Tour you see guys who had handicaps of +X when they turned pro shooting in the 80's. If you're playing in the CC with others who are not playing well then that's good for you coz they ain't gonna win are they!! If you can't concentrate enough to block that out then that's your problem.

Yes the Club Championship winner is the best golfer on the day(s). The one that shoots the lowest score or wins the matchplay side - its irrelevent how you detemine it. But it has to be the best golfer. If clubs want to run a CC Handicap competition alongside then why shouldn't they? At my last club there were only 4 or 5 single figure players. Having a whole CC just for them is plain daft. The fact that we got nearly half the membership (small club) playing the CC trying to win the handicap prize which was still worth having shows taht most wanted to have a go. It meant a lot to some of them that they could say " Had a good CC I came 5th".

I don't understand why sometimes the High Handicappers get miffed and the Low Handicappers get so precious. Its not like a 19 handicapper is going to win so why worry about it.

Rant over.
 
Exactly Imurg. The Club Champs is a "special" day at most clubs. Why should anyone be excluded just because they can't win.

At ours we have a starter who will issue the pre filled cards on the 1st tee with pin sheets for the day and go through the usual patter of identifying balls, correct amount of clubs etc. A lot of players will never have seen this sort of thing before and they may have no need for the pin sheet and the ball they identified may be lost in the trees by the 2nd hole, but it just adds to the fact that it is a special day.

As players enter their cards in the clubhouse after the AM rounds chips & sarnies are already being brought out for them to keep things moving which is again just a nice touch to set this one day apart from the others.

The scores go up on the leaderboard as they come in and everyone huddles round it seeing who has done what etc.

By the time the last groups return in the evening there are still 30 or 40 people in the clubhouse waiting to congratulate the winner and see the presentation or follow any play off.
 
As it is a 36 hole event at my club, followed by a last 16 knock out on the sunday, with the final held over til finals day, there isn't enough space for a massive field of everyone. 1/3 of the members of my club play off single figures, and so the cc, although a scratch event, still gets entry of about 100. To include all the div 2 boys would be mad.

We have a handicapped event called the spring meeting, which is 36 hole stroke play, all on one day. This has a board, and can be won by anyone. But it is not the cc. That is for scratch stroke play only.
 
As it is a 36 hole event at my club, followed by a last 16 knock out on the sunday, with the final held over til finals day, there isn't enough space for a massive field of everyone. 1/3 of the members of my club play off single figures, and so the cc, although a scratch event, still gets entry of about 100. To include all the div 2 boys would be mad.

We have a handicapped event called the spring meeting, which is 36 hole stroke play, all on one day. This has a board, and can be won by anyone. But it is not the cc. That is for scratch stroke play only.
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Now this to me sounds sensible, if the CC is not open to all then run a side competition on the same format with board etc for those who cannot enter the CC itself.
 
Fair play, Murph's club seems to be a bit of an exception to the rule with that many single figure golfers (which club is it btw Murph??) so can't justify having everyone enter and , as I said in an earlier post, higher handicaps should be balloted out if numbers/ time dictates.
 
My club is West Herts in Watford. We just seem to have a lot of low handicaps. Not sure why. Pretty much every 4 ball has at least one.
 
Hi,
We are having our first club championship this year as a new club we don't have that many single figure players so we are running a gross and a net comp with the same format over 36 holes as it happens i am winning the net and 3rd in the gross and i play off 11 so i am out in the last group next week and really looking forward to it playing in the last group with a 5 handicapper and a 9, I think it depends on the club our club just dosen't have enough low handicappers to justify having a comp just for them.
Mike
 
lovely, a contentious thread, how rare.

I too like strokeplay, must be masochistic (especially after today).

I've not looked into the rules for our club championship, must do that.

I can see the point of restricting entry by handicap, but only if it produces a big enough field. Year on year at the same cut line must mean that some years the entry is pretty small.
I can also see the point that if you pays your money you should have your chance; if it's pure scratch strokeplay then we higher handicappers have no real chance but that's not a reason not to compete.

as an aside, do any of you have an end of season comp purely for the season's medal winners?
 
My old club had a compy, The Crawford Shield, open to all winners of all compys through the year. Should have won it one year. Scored 41 points but got beaten on count-back...














By a 28'er!!!!! GGGGrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!
 
as an aside, do any of you have an end of season comp purely for the season's medal winners?
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Yep , we have the medal winners shield , battled for by all the available medal winners through the year and its the last chance for anyone to gain points towards the seasons OOM. It is played some time in December and its freezing cold and temp greens etc
 
I would say that we have in the region of at least 60+ single figure h`caps at JOG. That`s one reason why our CC is restricted to single figure golfers.
Why on earth would an 18 h`capper want to chop around in a 36 hole scratch comp for, just so he feel`s part of the club!
Every h`cap level in our club has their own comps that they can play in, many of these anyone can enter.
BUT CC is for the best golfers to play in.
I can`t see why some of you think that every one should be allowed to play in the CC as you are a member of the club.
If you were a single h`capper then you could!
 
Lets turn that on its head. Why prevent the majority of my club (we clearly don't have as many single figure golfers as you) from playing in undoubtedly the most prestigious event of the year. We had 14 single figure golfers in it this year and around 5 that were unable to play. Would it really be such a focal point of the year with 20-25 maximum golfers competing.

I think you'll find that most 18 handicppers enjoy chopping it round on CC day especially now its over two days and with a cut. One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet and perhaps the most fundamental point of all, is that its a channce to play the course at its peak, with greens trimmed right down and running faster than normal, tight pin placements, rough allowed to grow up and fairways contoured.

Yes it is tough for mid-high handicappers but its also a chance to really test your game safe in the knowledge that if you have a bad round you've experienced the course at its finest and will safely miss the cut and won't have to go out again. When held over 36 holes in one day, it was a soul destroying prospect (I shot gross 97 net 85) last year knowing I had to go out again in the rain after already getting all my gear wet in the morning. As a result the second round field was decimated as so many golfers legged it at lunchtime and it put an unfair pressure on an already stretched organising committee. I went out (managed a gross 92 second time around).

As I say why penalise everyone so the minority can have the course to themselves. Let everyone have a go. If they don't like it there is no gun against their head forcing them to enter next year
 
If you only have 14 single`s that want to play then yes i would say open it up. But then you must have a cut off point. What if all the members at your club wanted to play? We have nearly 600 full male members, how long would they take to go round if it was`nt restricted?
 
I think the biggest clue here is in the wording
"CLUB" Championship not "Those below 5 only" Championship.
If you've got enough single figure players to make up a decent field then its not a problem but at a lot of clubs there's probably only a handful so a Championship with a field of 15 doesn't realy cut it.
 
As I've mentioned we have around 350 male members at present and of those I reckon 100 or so regularly participate in competitive golf. Of the others some will be 5 day members and others will social golfers who may only play enough competitions to prevent their handicap from lapsing. We had a field of 80 or so went out in threes from 8.00 am onwards. The organisers tried to make each 3 ball consists of a single of low teen handicapper, a mid handicapper and a higher handicapper so each pairing was equally balanced.

It may not be the norm and it may change as this was the first year we tried it this way. I don't foresee it going back to 36 in one day necessarily but I do see more entrants next year.
 
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