Closed holes & handicapping

[wjemather]

No they're not, a penalty score is specifically when a score is not submitted when a player has intimated they intend submitting a score that day, it can be a low or high score added to the record, but once you commit to a round you're in, you can't then back out.

The case of committing to 18 holes is exactly as you've quoted, once you play 10, you won't get a penalty score, but the rest of your round that isn't completed will be recorded as net par/par +1

Wrong. You need to re-read rule 3.2: "If the reason for a player not playing a hole, or holes, is considered invalid, the Handicap Committee may consider applying a penalty score (see Rule 7.1)."

@IanM's example in #14 ("You can even walk off after 10 if you've done what you want to for you handicap! (up or down!)") suggests blatant handicap manipulation; that would then be an unacceptable score, and a Penalty Score should be applied.

 

[Colin L]

Wrong. You need to re-read rule 3.2: "If the reason for a player not playing a hole, or holes, is considered invalid, the Handicap Committee may consider applying a penalty score (see Rule 7.1)."

@IanM's example in #14 ("You can even walk off after 10 if you've done what you want to for you handicap! (up or down!)") suggests blatant handicap manipulation; that would then be an unacceptable score, and a Penalty Score should be applied.

Indeed.
There is some misunderstanding around the matter of holes not played as a result, I expect, of a misapprehension that the player can decide that they have a valid reason for not playing a hole. They can't: it is a Committee matter.

 

[IanM]

Wrong. You need to re-read rule 3.2: "If the reason for a player not playing a hole, or holes, is considered invalid, the Handicap Committee may consider applying a penalty score (see Rule 7.1)."

@IanM's example in #14 ("You can even walk off after 10 if you've done what you want to for you handicap! (up or down!)") suggests blatant handicap manipulation; that would then be an unacceptable score, and a Penalty Score should be applied.

Correct...if they know what actually went on. They can't possibly know if the player wants to hoodwink them. Mind you, you have limited number of opportunities

 

[Swango1980]

Correct...if they know what actually went on. They can't possibly know if the player wants to hoodwink them. Mind you, you have limited number of opportunities

To be fair, a player could hoodwink anyone at any time. They could go out solo and ask a mate to sign their card. They could disregard the rules at times. They could drop a ball in a generous position after going out of bounds. And so on. Perhaps the player could fool the Committee into thinking there was a legitimate reason to stop playing once. Maybe even twice. But, if they get into a pattern of doing this, I suspect the Committee may start getting suspicious.