caught cheating?

Footnote: To ALL of you that 'carry' spare balls in your pocket - I really dont think this is a good move, and leaves you WIDE open to all sorts of suspicion from anyone playing with you, surely ?
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Nope.
Always done it, always will. In fact, it feels weird if I don't have a spare in my left hand pocket now.
As I stated in my earlier post....I make it quite clear to whoever I'm playing with that I am carrying a spare. I also make it quite clear what ball I am playing with, and also what ball my "frightener" is.
If they are still suspicious after that little lot I'll make sure I don't play with them again
;)
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I never ever carry a spare ball. That is like asking for a chance to use it, innit?
 
I'm not so sure about reporting him, at the end of the day he is just cheating himself and yes the odd comp, but I am not so sure how rocking the boat in a club and labelling someone a cheat will fair on everyone.
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No, he's cheating everyone and if he's not reported he will do it again.

No messin here, this guy is not a golfer.

Oh, I never carry a spare ball.
 
Have a not to regular playing partner who carries a spare.
And he's as good as gold.
He's corrected me when I'm marking his card, to taking an extra shot.
As earlier posters say,it saves time.
 
I carry a spare ball all the time as a provisional as it saves time. Also during the winter a warm ball travels further so i alternate them between holes( providing i havent burried one in a bush :D)
Why drop a ball he's only cheating himself.
If you want my input you did the right thing....
I would have done the same.
 
Footnote: To ALL of you that 'carry' spare balls in your pocket - I really dont think this is a good move, and leaves you WIDE open to all sorts of suspicion from anyone playing with you, surely ?
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Nope.
Always done it, always will. In fact, it feels weird if I don't have a spare in my left hand pocket now.
As I stated in my earlier post....I make it quite clear to whoever I'm playing with that I am carrying a spare. I also make it quite clear what ball I am playing with, and also what ball my "frightener" is.
If they are still suspicious after that little lot I'll make sure I don't play with them again
;)
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I never ever carry a spare ball. That is like asking for a chance to use it, innit?
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Doesn't that mentality make you personally more susceptable to cheating, the fact that carrying a spare ball makes you feel it is likely to enocourage it? Why not try a round with a spare in your pocket and see if you cheat, if not, you will then know that you are not naturally a cheat and all your fears of others carrying one will float away on the breeze. ;)
 
Lets be honest there are more temptations to cheat in a round of golf than carrying a spare ball. Moving that twig even though the ball will move, pressing that bit of tufty grass down etc. All very easy to do and probably easy to get away with too but at the end of the day what would be the point. Once you start down that road there's little chance of coming back. How long before the odd shot is shaved off a bad hole etc.

A large proportion of golfers are fundamentally honest and play with integrity and within the rules. Some like Thierry Henry will always look to gain an advantage and will sometimes step over to the other side to do it. If I came across someone cheating then I'd definitely call it if it was a club competition, not sign the card and report them. In a so called friendly or a roll up I'd make sure they knew I knew and leave it at that but I wouldn't play with them again. I think the hardest situation to deal with would be if a mate cheated. I'd point out that I thought he was out of order and see what happened from there and hope it was a one off. Maybe ask why over a beer or two a few days later
 
Herbie: I'm not sure if you're post is aimed at my comments or who's ?

I wont ever carry one, because to me, it fills my head with 'I might need it in a minute' thoughts.
I merely suggested that anyone with a spare ball in his pocket, for no particular reason, might be leaving themselves open to suspicion from people they may play with, particularly people who arent aware it's 'normal' practice for you.
I prefer to actually have to go to my bag to get a provisional, should I need it. That way, everyone knows, and there are no doubts.
 
Chris
If you routinely carry a spare for the whole round, you do not get negative thoughts.
Its when you approach a tee where you leave your bag a distance away, and then take a spare that the negativity comes in.
I feel negative if I walk onto a tee without a spare.

A warning though.
I used to carry two balls, both Taylor made but with different numbers.I would tend to use the first one out of my pocket on the hole.
One day I marked my ball on the green and dropped it in my pocket waiting for the others to put out. When it was my turn to put I couldnt remember which ball Id played the hole with.
No idea what to do I called a 2 shot penalty.
I now carry a yellow ball as my spare.
 
I wont ever carry one, because to me, it fills my head with 'I might need it in a minute' thoughts.
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I find that most rounds I finish, I actually forget the ball was in my other pocket and only realise when I go to clear my pockets out and put everything back in the bag.
Worst thing? When a mate you are playing with hits such a bad tee shot that he decides to play a provisional and to save time you lend him your "frightener" to save him walking back to his bag and then he goes and carves your brand new Titleist into teddy bear country, or dumps it into a lake.

:mad: :mad: :mad:
 
By the rules don't you have to declare your ball on the first tee anyway?

I must admit I played in a comp against a society once and one dodgy 26 handicapper ended up in real thick cabbage on a hill and in the nettles and stew some miracle happened and he said he found his ball and got out of there and ended with a 6 on a par 5, I was very shocked as I had a good hole and ended with the same. The same guy sliced a maxfli noodle on the 17th into the trees and after spending an age looking for it he said he found it and played to the green, I did notice the ball as I was holding the flag it was a bloody top flite!! The worst part about it, was not me playing my worst golf but the fact he was celebrating getting 36 points after cheating!!
 
I played with a guy at East Sussex National once, stood on the 5th tee (really tough par 4) and he hit a massive slice off the tee. Declared a provisional and put it almost in the same place.
Asked what his first ball was, he said "Top Flite 3". As we were walking down to where his ball had ended up I asked him what his provisional was....."Top Flite 3" came the reply.
Knob

:( :( :( :( :( :( :(
 
Lets get something absolutely clear on this. This guy is not only cheating himself he’s cheating everyone else into the bargain. CSS and taking a possible win away from someone who’s possibly had their only chance at a medal.

Only cheating himself my ar$e.
 
Lets get something absolutely clear on this. This guy is not only cheating himself he’s cheating everyone else into the bargain. CSS and taking a possible win away from someone who’s possibly had their only chance at a medal.

Only cheating himself my ar$e.
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Agree Tommo

If you find someone cheating you have a responsiblity to the rest of the field to report him/her.
 
Sorry I would mention something to the fella but wouldn’t go telling tales on him to the comm. The issue of the lost ball should have been dealt with on the hole not after the round, for all the marker knows the fella might obviously thought the ball he found was his at that time, if that was the case then he had the choice of taking a two shot pen and playing the correct ball but no the marker labelled him a cheat when in fact it could have been a genuine mistake, the marker didnt see him drop the second ball.

By doing the above you would have proved a point and he would have known if he had cheated or a genuine mistake could have been corrected on the course and his card counted.
 
at the end of the day they are only cheating themselves.they will be found out one day when it comes back to bite them in the arse
 
By the rules don't you have to declare your ball on the first tee anyway?
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No you don't. It's convention but not a rule.

As for the OP then report the matter to the committee. I sat on a disciplinary a few years ago where we were effectively unable to take action as it was a case of one guy's word against another. However, everyone in the club was saying "he's been at it for years", "I've seen him do it too", "Oh glad he's been caught at last" etc etc. None of these people had reported anything at the time but all had an opinion on this guy being a cheat. No good to us though, we could only go on the known facts not hearsay and he basically got away with it.
 
Sorry I would mention something to the fella but wouldn’t go telling tales on him to the comm. The issue of the lost ball should have been dealt with on the hole not after the round, for all the marker knows the fella might obviously thought the ball he found was his at that time, if that was the case then he had the choice of taking a two shot pen and playing the correct ball but no the marker labelled him a cheat when in fact it could have been a genuine mistake, the marker didnt see him drop the second ball.

By doing the above you would have proved a point and he would have known if he had cheated or a genuine mistake could have been corrected on the course and his card counted.
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I am with you on this and find the whole affair a little troubling.

If i loose a ball i believe that if my partner finds it he will announce same straight away. To not do so in the hope you can police your partner cheating is not what i consider to be gentlemanly behaviour. At no point has it ever been established that the other person did not genuinely believe they may have been playing the right ball because he was not challenged at the time of the incident. I see no evidence that the other person was observed dropping another ball.

What was the time span between you finding the ball and him playing the other? How long would you have waited before telling him you found it? Would you have let it go beyond 5 minutes in your desire to catch him? I suspect the commitee may also have a view about the issue not being discussed at the time and the failure to advise your playing partner immediately of your discovery of the ball.

For the record if he is cheating he should be dealt with via the rules BUT there is a suspicion here that all is not as it may appear.

Edgey
 
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