Calculating Texas scramble handicap.

[Kennysarmy]

Team shot allowance is 25%/20%/15%/10% from lowest to highest course handicap.

My question is do you then just add these values up or round them up or down to nearest exact first?

 

[rulefan]

You calculate the %age Handicap Allowance of each player's Course Handicap and round it to get each player's Playing Handicap. Then sum the PHs.

 

[Kennysarmy]

Thanks

 

[wjemather]

Team shot allowance is 25%/20%/15%/10% from lowest to highest course handicap.

My question is do you then just add these values up or round them up or down to nearest exact first?

Work out each players allowance (unrounded); add them all up, and then round to the nearest whole number to get the team Playing Handicap.

CONGU's mixed tee calculator can be used to confirm this.

 

[Kennysarmy]

So two answers that contradict each other? What hope does the average golfer have haha

 

[rulefan]

Work out each players allowance (unrounded); add them all up, and then round to the nearest whole number to get the team Playing Handicap.

CONGU's mixed tee calculator can be used to confirm this.

I don't see how this confirms anything re a scramble.
My understanding was that in any format each player's PH was calculated and rounded before anything else happened.

 

[upsidedown]

I don't see how this confirms anything re a scramble.
My understanding was that in any format each player's PH was calculated and rounded before anything else happened.

The scramble calculator is down the bottom

 

[wjemather]

I don't see how this confirms anything re a scramble.
My understanding was that in any format each player's PH was calculated and rounded before anything else happened.

In a scramble, the only Playing Handicap is that of the team; i.e. the individuals do not have their own PH, just an allowance that contributes to the team PH.

If you use the calculator and manipulate it so all players allowances have decimals between x.5 and x.8 (with no multi-tee allowance) it illustrates what the correct team PH is when added together.

For interest, the same applies when calculating PH in greensomes.

 

[rulefan]

The scramble calculator is down the bottom

Thanks. I didn't look at the bottom.

 

[rulefan]

In a scramble, the only Playing Handicap is that of the team; i.e. the individuals do not have their own PH, just an allowance that contributes to the team PH.

If you use the calculator and manipulate it so all players allowances have decimals between x.5 and x.8 (with no multi-tee allowance) it illustrates what the correct team PH is when added together.

For interest, the same applies when calculating PH in greensomes.

Thanks. I hadn't seen the full set before..

 

[rulefan]

I am puzzled by the following example.

Scramble, 2 men, 2 women
Men's course CR 72.2, Par 73, SR 132. Ladies 73.3, 74, 132

M1. HI 22.6, CH 26 - 15% = 3.90
M2. HI 12.5, CH 15 - 20% = 3.00
L1. HI 11.1, CH 13 - 25% = 3.25 (Adj 0.27)
L2. HI 32.4, CH 38 - 10% = 3.80 (Adj 0.27

Team Handicap 15

But 3.9 + 3.0 + 3.35 + 3.8 = 13.95 adding 2 x 0.27 makes 14.49.
a) Why 15?
b) What are the 0.27s?

 

[YandaB]

I am puzzled by the following example.

Scramble, 2 men, 2 women
Men's course CR 72.2, Par 73, SR 132. Ladies 73.3, 74, 132

M1. HI 22.6, CH 26 - 15% = 3.90
M2. HI 12.5, CH 15 - 20% = 3.00
L1. HI 11.1, CH 13 - 25% = 3.25 (Adj 0.27)
L2. HI 32.4, CH 38 - 10% = 3.80 (Adj 0.27

Team Handicap 15

But 3.9 + 3.0 + 3.35 + 3.8 = 13.95 adding 2 x 0.27 makes 14.49.
a) Why 15?
b) What are the 0.27s?

Using the CONGU mixed tee calculator it does give the 0.27 adjustments but agrees that the total is 15:

Now using correct SR

 

[wjemather]

I am puzzled by the following example.

Scramble, 2 men, 2 women
Men's course CR 72.2, Par 73, SR 132. Ladies 73.3, 74, 132

M1. HI 22.6, CH 26 - 15% = 3.90
M2. HI 12.5, CH 15 - 20% = 3.00
L1. HI 11.1, CH 13 - 25% = 3.25 (Adj 0.27)
L2. HI 32.4, CH 38 - 10% = 3.80 (Adj 0.27

Team Handicap 15

But 3.9 + 3.0 + 3.35 + 3.8 = 13.95 adding 2 x 0.27 makes 14.49.
a) Why 15?
b) What are the 0.27s?

b) It's 25% of the difference in CR; as such...
a) The 0.27 is actually 0.275 (not sure why it's truncated instead of rounded on the calculator), so the total is 14.50 not 14.49, rounded to 15

 

[YandaB]

Using the CONGU mixed tee calculator it does give the 0.27 adjustments but agrees that the total is 15:
View attachment 36779
Now using correct SR

I can understand that 25% of 1.1 is 0.27 (if rounding down) but not 10% for player 4, that would be 0.11. If whatever the logic is for 25% of 1.1 is used for both then that is 0.55 giving 3.9 + 3.0 + 3.35 + 3.8 = 13.95 + 0.55 = 14.5 rounds up to 15. The error is that it is showing 0.27 and not 0.275. Still no wiser as to 2x25% though.

 

[rulefan]

Using the CONGU mixed tee calculator it does give the 0.27 adjustments but agrees that the total is 15:
View attachment 36779
Now using correct SR

Yes I used the calculator and got that picture

 

[rulefan]

b) It's 25% of the difference in CR; as such...
a) The 0.27 is actually 0.275 (not sure why it's truncated instead of rounded on the calculator), so the total is 14.50 not 14.49, rounded to 15

Thanks, makes sense now. I guess that there isn't space in the SS display field. It hasn't been truncated in the calculation but in the display.

 

[rulefan]

Using the CONGU mixed tee calculator it does give the 0.27 adjustments but agrees that the total is 15:
View attachment 36779

How did you create the .png ?

 

[YandaB]

How did you create the .png ?

I used the built in "Snipping Tool" in windows.

 

[rulefan]

I used the built in "Snipping Tool" in windows.

I had never heard of it

 

[Kennysarmy]

I had never heard of it

You need that in your life.