Bugbear of mine

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!!You also said that manufacturers should say that the driver will be of no use to you unless custom fit !!!! When was it decided that off the shelf drivers without custom fit make the club useless ?

And please don't say Tom Wishon says so because every single person is different - certainly plenty believe that custom fit isn't always the answer


So what's this quote in highlights.
 
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I get were the OP is coming from and using buying cars etc as a counter to his point is mute as a review of any car goes to the N'th degree, I also get the point of one size doesn't fit all. definitely don't think the manafacturers are trying to hide anything or confuse the public.

However, from the review point of view it would be interesting to me to see how these drivers perform for the same person with different shaft length.
Educating people along the way that other options are available.

At the end of the day it may be simple price, ie X Driver with X Shaft Length, £300.00, however X Driver with X, Y or Z Shaft Length, £350.00. it would be cheaper to buy the standard shaft and have it reduced and the manafacturers are not carrying excess stock.
 
At the end of the day it may be simple price, ie X Driver with X Shaft Length, £300.00, however X Driver with X, Y or Z Shaft Length, £350.00. it would be cheaper to buy the standard shaft and have it reduced and the manafacturers are not carrying excess stock.

At what point does requesting a shorter shaft at point of sale increase the price?

This thread is bonkers???? It seems as though most of you want an Encyclopedia Brittanica sized tome
 
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Most driver shafts are within an inch the same length and, in my opinion, a single inch makes little difference in either clubhead speed or accuracy. What matters more is how the swingweight & shaft flex are altered by any change in shaft length. Shortening the shaft of an off the shelf club may make the swingweight & flex more or less suitable for the user. The only way to find out is to try it out. I've lengthened & shortened my driver shafts a lot. I have a stiff version of the shaft I use and, at standard length, I can't get a decent trajectory. With an extra inch on the shaft is noticeably softer & I can hit it high enough. I don't really think the advertisers need to mention shaft length but reviewers should mention it as well as, equally importantly, swingweight.
 
At what point does requesting a shorter shaft at point of sale increase the price?

This thread is bonkers???? It seems as though most of you want an Encyclopedia Brittanica sized tome

No more than an observation of how manafacturers could take advantage and may charge more for a non-standard shaft, longer or shorter😃
 
They currently give you that option though Paul - it's called custom fitting???? :mad:

I know mate, but you only reposted one snapshot of my post, I wasn't agreeing or disagreeing, offering different shaft lengths off the shelf isn't really custom fitting and could lead to more confusion
 
To be fair to Crossfield he does tend to point this out. Distinctly remember him reviewing the Aeroburner range and he stated to be careful about the shaft length as it is a relatively long. Also heard Shiels mention it occasionally.

I'd tend to say that if a driver/wood does come with a relatively long shaft length then this should be at least mentioned in a review, as it will influence how easy the club is to hit for the majority of club golfers. Of course it's not the be all and end all, but I've heard many people say that the average amateur golfer would benefit from a shorter shaft to maximise the chances of hitting it on the sweet spot. And you could probably make an argument that a shorter shaft would benefit most amateurs much more than the high additional cost some of them pay to slide this weight front and that weight back and that weight left and this crown made out of weightlesness magic fairy wings blah blah blah.
 
M. There are plenty of us who need longer shafted drivers, b cause we aren't midgets.
Fallacy. Two folks who are 5' 4" & 6' 2" of "normal" build can stand with hands by their side & their hands will be exactly the same distance from the ground. This is how you determine optimum club length. I have two mates, one 3" shorter than me, the other 3" taller & my hands are nearer the ground than either of them. In theory, I need shorter clubs but I prefer to swing flatter.
 
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