Kellfire
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Re: British Lions Tour 2017
Given the short term nature of a Lions Tour, then surely it is vital that Gatland takes the players to fit the system rather than the other way round...
Scholes - Gerrard - Lampard, anyone?
Given the short term nature of a Lions Tour, then surely it is vital that Gatland takes the players to fit the system rather than the other way round...
Scholes - Gerrard - Lampard, anyone?
Re: British Lions Tour 2017
Those names together still have the power to make me shudder. Why, why, why?
Those names together still have the power to make me shudder. Why, why, why?
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Re: British Lions Tour 2017
Or you show your abilities by picking the best players and finding a system that suits them
Or you show your abilities by picking the best players and finding a system that suits them
NWJocko
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Re: British Lions Tour 2017
I understand that viewpoint, think my lack of enthusiasm is that it is clearly the same old plan/type of rugby from Gatland and I don't think that's good enough to get the job done against NZ, I'd love to be proved wrong though.
A lot of competition for places, especially in the second row and you can't take everyone. Biggar is the really odd one for me and illustrates Gatlands "plan B is more of plan A" approach, not entirely sure he offers anything different for the Test series to make an impact off the bench. In fact I'd be amazed if there was ever a situation he would put Biggar at 10 ahead of Farrell if something happened to Sexton so why not take someone who offers something a little different (toss a coin between Ford and Russell, probably Ford if Farrell is starting 12)........
I'm far from an expert though
I understand that viewpoint, think my lack of enthusiasm is that it is clearly the same old plan/type of rugby from Gatland and I don't think that's good enough to get the job done against NZ, I'd love to be proved wrong though.
A lot of competition for places, especially in the second row and you can't take everyone. Biggar is the really odd one for me and illustrates Gatlands "plan B is more of plan A" approach, not entirely sure he offers anything different for the Test series to make an impact off the bench. In fact I'd be amazed if there was ever a situation he would put Biggar at 10 ahead of Farrell if something happened to Sexton so why not take someone who offers something a little different (toss a coin between Ford and Russell, probably Ford if Farrell is starting 12)........
I'm far from an expert though
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A system that he never beat NZ with during his tenure as Wales head coach.
Perhaps using different types of players in a more imaginative system could give us a chance against the ABs. Afterall the Aussies were dire and they could have easily won the first two tests last time out, but for the lack of a decent goalkicker.
A system that he never beat NZ with during his tenure as Wales head coach.
Perhaps using different types of players in a more imaginative system could give us a chance against the ABs. Afterall the Aussies were dire and they could have easily won the first two tests last time out, but for the lack of a decent goalkicker.
FairwayDodger
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Looks to have been a bit of an old pals stitch up. Poor show.
Looks to have been a bit of an old pals stitch up. Poor show.
Re: British Lions Tour 2017
I'm just pleased Gatland is not English. The lack of Scots in the team when they have actually had a good 6 nations is a little odd to me.
I agree with your comment FD. One of the pleasing things is that despite the comments otherwise Joseph is in the side. His display of running against Scotland alone should have booked him a place. At least he is not another standard wham bam centre / winger.
I'm just pleased Gatland is not English. The lack of Scots in the team when they have actually had a good 6 nations is a little odd to me.
I agree with your comment FD. One of the pleasing things is that despite the comments otherwise Joseph is in the side. His display of running against Scotland alone should have booked him a place. At least he is not another standard wham bam centre / winger.
Doon frae Troon
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Scotland hammer Wales 29-16 in the six nations.
Scotland 2 lions players selected Wales 12.
aye right.
Watson and J.Gray should have been included as a minimum.
Scotland hammer Wales 29-16 in the six nations.
Scotland 2 lions players selected Wales 12.
aye right.
Watson and J.Gray should have been included as a minimum.
Val
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Re: British Lions Tour 2017
Test starting line up if all fit?
Test starting line up if all fit?
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Re: British Lions Tour 2017
I think he will go with
Hogg
Daly
Davies
Farrell
North
Sexton
Murray
Vunipola
Owens
Furlong
Kruis/AWJ
Itodje
Warburton
OBrien/OMahoney
Vunipola
I think he will go with
Hogg
Daly
Davies
Farrell
North
Sexton
Murray
Vunipola
Owens
Furlong
Kruis/AWJ
Itodje
Warburton
OBrien/OMahoney
Vunipola
Val
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Hogg
Seymour
Te'o
Daly
Nowell
Farrell
Murray
Vunipola
Owens
Furlong
Itodje
Kruis
Stander
OBrien
Vunipola
Hogg
Seymour
Te'o
Daly
Nowell
Farrell
Murray
Vunipola
Owens
Furlong
Itodje
Kruis
Stander
OBrien
Vunipola
Val
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Hogg
Seymour
Davies
Henshaw
Williams
Farrell
Murray
Vunipola
George
Furlong
Itodje
Kruis
Stander
Tipuric
Vunipola
Hogg
Seymour
Davies
Henshaw
Williams
Farrell
Murray
Vunipola
George
Furlong
Itodje
Kruis
Stander
Tipuric
Vunipola
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I'd go for:
Marler, George, Furlong
AWJ, Itoji
Stander, O'Mahoney, Vunipola
Murray, Sexton
Henshaw, Joseph
North, Hogg, Nowell
Subs:
Mako, Owens, Sinkler
Lawes, Falatau, Warburton
Youngs, Farrell
I'd go for:
Marler, George, Furlong
AWJ, Itoji
Stander, O'Mahoney, Vunipola
Murray, Sexton
Henshaw, Joseph
North, Hogg, Nowell
Subs:
Mako, Owens, Sinkler
Lawes, Falatau, Warburton
Youngs, Farrell
Farneyman
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http://www.independent.ie/sport/rug...r-embarrassing-irish-rugby-fail-35636466.html
At least they changed it :thup:
http://www.independent.ie/sport/rug...r-embarrassing-irish-rugby-fail-35636466.html
At least they changed it :thup:
Kellfire
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Farneyman
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Re: British Lions Tour 2017
There's an issue with the thread title that was pointed out at the beginning of the thread in post#5 that has so far being ignored.
There's 11 Irish players in the squad.
British and Irish Lions 2017
Simples
There's an issue with the thread title that was pointed out at the beginning of the thread in post#5 that has so far being ignored.
There's 11 Irish players in the squad.
British and Irish Lions 2017
Simples
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