Hacker Khan
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Both sides have always wanted a deal. There is just a lot of posturing/elections to be won etc etc on both sides for the respective domestic audiences before we get there.
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Both sides have always wanted a deal. There is just a lot of posturing/elections to be won etc etc on both sides for the respective domestic audiences before we get there.
drdel
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Taking a 'Brexit banter' break - Have a Great Christmas and good health 
drdel
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Amused by the suggestion the EU might request more time (not that it might not be wise) - I think I recall Barnier et. al. declaring in September that they were well prepared and totally ready if the UK went for a No Deal!
I'd have hoped that after 40 years of trading there should not be much RE-alignment to take place and been preparing for 3+years the EU-UK should know the known unknowns there ought not to be many unknown, unknowns!
I'd have hoped that after 40 years of trading there should not be much RE-alignment to take place and been preparing for 3+years the EU-UK should know the known unknowns there ought not to be many unknown, unknowns!
I wonder if the EU request for more time might mean that as its them asking for it they will be willing to forego that monthly payment of (now) over £1bn?
imagine the uproar and name calling if we’d asked for an extension.
I guess the usual suspects on here won’t say a word about this
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Do you have a link to this possibility, can’t find any info on net?
robinthehood
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Was on the BBC web site.Do you have a link to this possibility, can’t find any info on net?
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-50928295Do you have a link to this possibility, can’t find any info on net?
Hacker Khan
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She's just said that it is a short time frame to agree a trade deal. And I'm sure she'd be more than happy to not have to worry about much re-alignment and to carry on much the same as we have for the previous 40 years. Nothing to do with no deal as they want to do a deal.
I know Boris has some oven ready deal apparently but using recent experience he tends to say a lot of things that are not quite true in the cold light of day in this area. And a lot of other commentators have agreed with her based on how long it has taken other countries to agree a deal with the EU. No ones saying it can't be done.
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By "extend" they mean "keep paying" 
Hacker Khan
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By "extend" they mean "keep paying"
Trouble is that if we go into trade deal negotiations thinking that they are desperate to keep us in there as long as possible as we are paying then I suspect we will get a rude awakening. They are as desperate to get it sorted out and to move on as we are.
drdel
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But the 'other' countries were not previously members of the same trading group for several decades so had divergent standards.
Doon frae Troon
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5000 Britain First members have now joined the Tory party, according to it's leader.
Is this the shape of things to come.
Is this the shape of things to come.
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Oh dear. more trolling
That org has never has anything like that number of members. Hope not Hate even tweeted that the figure is less than one thousand. I guess they all joined 4 or 5 times eh?
...other Twitter feeds are worth reading
That org has never has anything like that number of members. Hope not Hate even tweeted that the figure is less than one thousand. I guess they all joined 4 or 5 times eh?
...other Twitter feeds are worth reading
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harpo_72
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It would be amusing if the EU delay the exit and make the tax evasion rules apply .. but dunno how they would nor do I understand how they can charge us if we are leaving ? So brutally honest does any of this matter ?? Nah suns out
SwingsitlikeHogan
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Will his Oven-ready Deal be good for us? Well possibly - but maybe not as good for us were we not leaving at all...but we are...
https://next-media-api.ft.com/renditions/15444459163270/1280x720.mp4
And also recently read in the FT (or maybe the Observer) - most economists out of a group of 87 (I think) asked, strongly suspected that Johnson would request an extension to avoid a No Deal exit. (I'll see if I can find a link to that article).
Hacker Khan
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Of course he will, and indeed he should as he knows as well as anyone the hit the economy will take, especially those areas he's just got from labour in the midlands and up north. People are immune to caring about him going back on his word now as we are living in a world where that is the norm from people in power, he doesn't have to worry about an election for another 5 years but he ain't going to deliberately create any additional economic challenges for his government. With the big majority and when we Brexit he has no one left to blame now for what goes wrong but additionally that mean he can take all the credit if in 5 years time it's all going swimmingly, so why would he go for a no deal which every credible economic forecast has said could screw him up?
SocketRocket
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The guy in that video (whoever) doesn't seem to understand the difference between a Forecast and Asking a question.
spongebob59
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A song from frozen springs to mind :
No doubt Gina miller will get on this band wagon for some airtime
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