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Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!

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harpo_72 said:
It wasn't just jaguar land rover .. VW,BMW and Mercedes were all using that area and there was also an opportunity for the tier1 suppliers that work across all those brands, like the wheel and tyre assemblers, binnacle assemblers steering assemblers, suspension corner assemblers (basically Bosch! and a few others )

In the end that area will have some wealth generation and the local communities will benefit. Should they review, yes perhaps but just to see if it causes an issue.
I know for sure JLR could not build to their required capacity in the UK and the other Euro sites like Magna kill the profit margin on the models they produce (but building jags is distinctly different to building VWs, Mercs and BMWs due to the attribute team fudging)
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Genuine question. What binnacles do they assemble. I only know a binnacle as a device used to create a horizontal level surface in ships and optical instruments.
 
Stolen from a friend:

“So congratulations if you wanted Boris Johnson as pm.

Please don’t celebrate too much though as you have work to do. You see us remoaners have spent three and a half years now telling you brexit was wrong but we’ve finally and completely lost. There’s pretty much nothing we can do now to stop it.

So, it’s over to you leavers. You need to get yourselves into gear to make it work. We need to see some of these benefits you’ve been able to see yet unable to properly articulate since 2016.

I hope you don’t mind but I’ve taken the liberty of writing a “to do” list for you.

1. Get brexit done please. When we say done we mean as promised so we’ll be looking for trade deals with the EU, Japan, Australia and Canada etc. In fact there’s about 40 deals covering 70 countries that need to be done please. Also with the US that doesn’t involve the nhs or chlorine. We want what you promised us. That was that we’d be no worse off than when we were an EU member. You need to crack on as this was promised by the end of Jan. You have seven weeks.

2. The NHS. We want the cash that was promised please. £350 million per week is about 72000 nurses so please get recruiting. This is important.

3. Scotland. Ok so these guys were promised they would remain in the EU if they remained in the UK. They’re pretty pissed. In fact they’ve voted almost exclusively for the SNP so they might want to leave. Equally you said the UK wouldn’t split so you’ll need to both grant Scotland its independence and keep it as part of the United Kingdom. Good luck squaring this circle. NB This is urgent.

4. Northern Ireland. Oooookay then. You’ve really buggered this one up. There’s a chance they could look to reunify with the republic now because they didn’t want to brexit. Regardless you’ve caused instability there where we and they can least afford it. NB This is also urgent.

5. The economy. Johnson keeps talking about unleashing the potential of the country. We need to see this soon if possible. We don’t want to see the downturn that “project fear” predicted. We don’t want to be poorer. We don’t want to lose out.

6. You’ll also need to “bring the country back together”. This might be tricky as a lot of people seem to be really really angry with each other.

That’s as far as I’ve got. Should keep you busy. So go and get all british about things. Roll up your sleeves, pull your socks up, dig deep and deliver what you promised.

And remember if you fail to deliver any of this it’s on you, brexit and Tory voters. You wanted this so badly and now you have it. We honestly hope we’re wrong and that you can make a success of this but if you can’t then we will forever tell you that we told you so.”
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Stolen from a friend:

“So congratulations if you wanted Boris Johnson as pm.

Please don’t celebrate too much though as you have work to do. You see us remoaners have spent three and a half years now telling you brexit was wrong but we’ve finally and completely lost. There’s pretty much nothing we can do now to stop it.

So, it’s over to you leavers. You need to get yourselves into gear to make it work. We need to see some of these benefits you’ve been able to see yet unable to properly articulate since 2016.

I hope you don’t mind but I’ve taken the liberty of writing a “to do” list for you.
”
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And what are the remoaners going to do?
It would be nice if they could accept the majority decision and help, rather than continue to divide the country.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Stolen from a friend:

“So congratulations if you wanted Boris Johnson as pm.

Please don’t celebrate too much though as you have work to do. You see us remoaners have spent three and a half years now telling you brexit was wrong but we’ve finally and completely lost. There’s pretty much nothing we can do now to stop it.

So, it’s over to you leavers. You need to get yourselves into gear to make it work. We need to see some of these benefits you’ve been able to see yet unable to properly articulate since 2016.

I hope you don’t mind but I’ve taken the liberty of writing a “to do” list for you.

1. Get brexit done please. When we say done we mean as promised so we’ll be looking for trade deals with the EU, Japan, Australia and Canada etc. In fact there’s about 40 deals covering 70 countries that need to be done please. Also with the US that doesn’t involve the nhs or chlorine. We want what you promised us. That was that we’d be no worse off than when we were an EU member. You need to crack on as this was promised by the end of Jan. You have seven weeks.

2. The NHS. We want the cash that was promised please. £350 million per week is about 72000 nurses so please get recruiting. This is important.

3. Scotland. Ok so these guys were promised they would remain in the EU if they remained in the UK. They’re pretty pissed. In fact they’ve voted almost exclusively for the SNP so they might want to leave. Equally you said the UK wouldn’t split so you’ll need to both grant Scotland its independence and keep it as part of the United Kingdom. Good luck squaring this circle. NB This is urgent.

4. Northern Ireland. Oooookay then. You’ve really buggered this one up. There’s a chance they could look to reunify with the republic now because they didn’t want to brexit. Regardless you’ve caused instability there where we and they can least afford it. NB This is also urgent.

5. The economy. Johnson keeps talking about unleashing the potential of the country. We need to see this soon if possible. We don’t want to see the downturn that “project fear” predicted. We don’t want to be poorer. We don’t want to lose out.

6. You’ll also need to “bring the country back together”. This might be tricky as a lot of people seem to be really really angry with each other.

That’s as far as I’ve got. Should keep you busy. So go and get all british about things. Roll up your sleeves, pull your socks up, dig deep and deliver what you promised.

And remember if you fail to deliver any of this it’s on you, brexit and Tory voters. You wanted this so badly and now you have it. We honestly hope we’re wrong and that you can make a success of this but if you can’t then we will forever tell you that we told you so.”
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I would give it back if I was you.

Absolutely pathetic and unbeliveable attitude. If you genuinely believe in democracy and accept its result then the grown up thing to do is put aside your differences and do all you can to make this country a success on its new journey. Some people really need to get a grip on reality.
 
bobmac said:
And what are the remoaners going to do?
It would be nice if they could accept the majority decision and help, rather than continue to divide the country.
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Well - I’ll go to work , earn my wage , come home and feed my family , and cross my fingers and pray this doesn’t blow up in our face whilst a guy who hid in fridge tries to sort out our future and live up to all his promises
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Stolen from a friend:

“So congratulations if you wanted Boris Johnson as pm.

Please don’t celebrate too much though as you have work to do. You see us remoaners have spent three and a half years now telling you brexit was wrong but we’ve finally and completely lost. There’s pretty much nothing we can do now to stop it.

So, it’s over to you leavers. You need to get yourselves into gear to make it work. We need to see some of these benefits you’ve been able to see yet unable to properly articulate since 2016.

I hope you don’t mind but I’ve taken the liberty of writing a “to do” list for you.

1. Get brexit done please. When we say done we mean as promised so we’ll be looking for trade deals with the EU, Japan, Australia and Canada etc. In fact there’s about 40 deals covering 70 countries that need to be done please. Also with the US that doesn’t involve the nhs or chlorine. We want what you promised us. That was that we’d be no worse off than when we were an EU member. You need to crack on as this was promised by the end of Jan. You have seven weeks.

2. The NHS. We want the cash that was promised please. £350 million per week is about 72000 nurses so please get recruiting. This is important.

3. Scotland. Ok so these guys were promised they would remain in the EU if they remained in the UK. They’re pretty pissed. In fact they’ve voted almost exclusively for the SNP so they might want to leave. Equally you said the UK wouldn’t split so you’ll need to both grant Scotland its independence and keep it as part of the United Kingdom. Good luck squaring this circle. NB This is urgent.

4. Northern Ireland. Oooookay then. You’ve really buggered this one up. There’s a chance they could look to reunify with the republic now because they didn’t want to brexit. Regardless you’ve caused instability there where we and they can least afford it. NB This is also urgent.

5. The economy. Johnson keeps talking about unleashing the potential of the country. We need to see this soon if possible. We don’t want to see the downturn that “project fear” predicted. We don’t want to be poorer. We don’t want to lose out.

6. You’ll also need to “bring the country back together”. This might be tricky as a lot of people seem to be really really angry with each other.

That’s as far as I’ve got. Should keep you busy. So go and get all british about things. Roll up your sleeves, pull your socks up, dig deep and deliver what you promised.

And remember if you fail to deliver any of this it’s on you, brexit and Tory voters. You wanted this so badly and now you have it. We honestly hope we’re wrong and that you can make a success of this but if you can’t then we will forever tell you that we told you so.”
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You harp on about the country being divided then post this drivel,,, really great way of healing the rift.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Well - I’ll go to work , earn my wage , come home and feed my family , and cross my fingers and pray this doesn’t blow up in our face whilst a guy who hid in fridge tries to sort out our future and live up to all his promises
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To quote Eisenhower ' Its not what your country can do for you its what you can do for your country'
Its time for people to put this behind them now and you should know better.
 
Why do people who support boris expect everyone who hasn’t to suddenly fall in line with a speech boris has made!
Respect and accept the result by all means, but trust has to be earned and the serial liar has to do just that, earn the trust and as far as I’m concerned actions speak louder than words.

As for quoting an Eisenhower speech when it was actually JFK who said it, to an ex-serviceman is embarrassing and pretty much an own goal.
 
SocketRocket said:
And that means what exactly, lots of us have served our countries but dont expect special endorsement for it.
I wont comment on you further as you have spoken volumes yourself.
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You posted some tag line that included “what you can do for your country”?

Well as I said I have done plenty for my country including putting my life on the line for it - so now I’ll do things for myself and my family and I expect Boris Johnson to sort out the country as he has promised too

1. We expect the NHS to get a massive windfall and tens of thousands of nurses to be employed - that’s new nurses . More brand new hospitals , GP surgeries

2. Want to see the economy booming , less foods banks , less homeless people

3. Want to see all these great trade deals

4. See industry come booming back

All the promises and the claims that have been made by Boris Johnson and his ilk.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
You posted some tag line that included “what you can do for your country”?

Well as I said I have done plenty for my country including putting my life on the line for it - so now I’ll do things for myself and my family and I expect Boris Johnson to sort out the country as he has promised too
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Not worthy of a comment
 
pauldj42 said:
Why do people who support boris expect everyone who hasn’t to suddenly fall in line with a speech boris has made!
Respect and accept the result by all means, but trust has to be earned and the serial liar has to do just that, earn the trust and as far as I’m concerned actions speak louder than words.

As for quoting an Eisenhower speech when it was actually JFK who said it, to an ex-serviceman is embarrassing and pretty much an own goal.
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OK JFK , doesnt change the meaning though.
 
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