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Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!

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I have to admit people that moan because they can't accept that some of us still have an opinion that brexit is a bad idea and should get behind the country and do what we can to make brexit work make me laugh. Because usually they're the same people saying we have freedom of speech when they want to disagree with something or someone.

I go to work I pay my taxes and contribute to society, why should I or anyone else do anything more for the country to aid with Brexit, we have highly paid elected politicians put in place to carry out that precise job. I accept that the democratic vote means we leave but it is not down me to support it or change my mind because of it, its actually down to Boris and his elected party to deliver it and other promises they have made and to prove to me and the entire nation that this is best for us as a collective.
 
Wolf said:
I have to admit people that moan because they can't accept that some of us still have an opinion that brexit is a bad idea and should get behind the country and do what we can to make brexit work make me laugh. Because usually they're the same people saying we have freedom of speech when they want to disagree with something or someone.

I go to work I pay my taxes and contribute to society, why should I or anyone else do anything more for the country to aid with Brexit, we have highly paid elected politicians put in place to carry out that precise job. I accept that the democratic vote means we leave but it is not down me to support it or change my mind because of it, its actually down to Boris and his elected party to deliver it and other promises they have made and to prove to me and the entire nation that this is best for us as a collective.
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Spot on!

There's a working majority now that should address so many different issues. Here's hoping...
 
Wolf said:
I have to admit people that moan because they can't accept that some of us still have an opinion that brexit is a bad idea and should get behind the country and do what we can to make brexit work make me laugh. Because usually they're the same people saying we have freedom of speech when they want to disagree with something or someone.

I go to work I pay my taxes and contribute to society, why should I or anyone else do anything more for the country to aid with Brexit, we have highly paid elected politicians put in place to carry out that precise job. I accept that the democratic vote means we leave but it is not down me to support it or change my mind because of it, its actually down to Boris and his elected party to deliver it and other promises they have made and to prove to me and the entire nation that this is best for us as a collective.
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Well said

There are no excuses now, they have the majority and the mandate.
 
Wolf said:
I have to admit people that moan because they can't accept that some of us still have an opinion that brexit is a bad idea and should get behind the country and do what we can to make brexit work make me laugh. Because usually they're the same people saying we have freedom of speech when they want to disagree with something or someone.

I go to work I pay my taxes and contribute to society, why should I or anyone else do anything more for the country to aid with Brexit, we have highly paid elected politicians put in place to carry out that precise job. I accept that the democratic vote means we leave but it is not down me to support it or change my mind because of it, its actually down to Boris and his elected party to deliver it and other promises they have made and to prove to me and the entire nation that this is best for us as a collective.
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Totally agree, I voted Leave, look forward to leaving but at no cost do I want a No Deal, hopefully boris will pull it off and we get sorted.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Stolen from a friend:

“So congratulations if you wanted Boris Johnson as pm.

Please don’t celebrate too much though as you have work to do. You see us remoaners have spent three and a half years now telling you brexit was wrong but we’ve finally and completely lost. There’s pretty much nothing we can do now to stop it.

So, it’s over to you leavers. You need to get yourselves into gear to make it work. We need to see some of these benefits you’ve been able to see yet unable to properly articulate since 2016.

I hope you don’t mind but I’ve taken the liberty of writing a “to do” list for you.

1. Get brexit done please. When we say done we mean as promised so we’ll be looking for trade deals with the EU, Japan, Australia and Canada etc. In fact there’s about 40 deals covering 70 countries that need to be done please. Also with the US that doesn’t involve the nhs or chlorine. We want what you promised us. That was that we’d be no worse off than when we were an EU member. You need to crack on as this was promised by the end of Jan. You have seven weeks.

2. The NHS. We want the cash that was promised please. £350 million per week is about 72000 nurses so please get recruiting. This is important.

3. Scotland. Ok so these guys were promised they would remain in the EU if they remained in the UK. They’re pretty pissed. In fact they’ve voted almost exclusively for the SNP so they might want to leave. Equally you said the UK wouldn’t split so you’ll need to both grant Scotland its independence and keep it as part of the United Kingdom. Good luck squaring this circle. NB This is urgent.

4. Northern Ireland. Oooookay then. You’ve really buggered this one up. There’s a chance they could look to reunify with the republic now because they didn’t want to brexit. Regardless you’ve caused instability there where we and they can least afford it. NB This is also urgent.

5. The economy. Johnson keeps talking about unleashing the potential of the country. We need to see this soon if possible. We don’t want to see the downturn that “project fear” predicted. We don’t want to be poorer. We don’t want to lose out.

6. You’ll also need to “bring the country back together”. This might be tricky as a lot of people seem to be really really angry with each other.

That’s as far as I’ve got. Should keep you busy. So go and get all british about things. Roll up your sleeves, pull your socks up, dig deep and deliver what you promised.

And remember if you fail to deliver any of this it’s on you, brexit and Tory voters. You wanted this so badly and now you have it. We honestly hope we’re wrong and that you can make a success of this but if you can’t then we will forever tell you that we told you so.”
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Another idiot (not you Phil) going on about that poxy bus
 
Dando said:
Another idiot (not you Phil) going on about that poxy bus
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The Bus was and still is a significant and iconic symbol of the Referendum - it was a big slogan with a very high monetary figure on it with a very high profile pinch point below - the marketing team knew exactly the message it was trying to say and it had an affect - people wont forget it and they expect that message to be delivered
 
Liverpoolphil said:
The Bus was and still is a significant and iconic symbol of the Referendum - it was a big slogan with a very high monetary figure on it with a very high profile pinch point below - the marketing team knew exactly the message it was trying to say and it had an affect - people wont forget it and they expect that message to be delivered
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It didn’t make any promises but people still go on about it
 
Liverpoolphil said:
The Bus was and still is a significant and iconic symbol of the Referendum - it was a big slogan with a very high monetary figure on it with a very high profile pinch point below - the marketing team knew exactly the message it was trying to say and it had an affect - people wont forget it and they expect that message to be delivered
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Keep perpetuating the untruth Phil, really helpful. :rolleyes:
 
Wolf said:
I have to admit people that moan because they can't accept that some of us still have an opinion that brexit is a bad idea and should get behind the country and do what we can to make brexit work make me laugh. Because usually they're the same people saying we have freedom of speech when they want to disagree with something or someone.

I go to work I pay my taxes and contribute to society, why should I or anyone else do anything more for the country to aid with Brexit, we have highly paid elected politicians put in place to carry out that precise job. I accept that the democratic vote means we leave but it is not down me to support it or change my mind because of it, its actually down to Boris and his elected party to deliver it and other promises they have made and to prove to me and the entire nation that this is best for us as a collective.
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Just re-read LPs post, its not suggesting Boris and his party sort out Brexit, its suggesting the people that voted for it are responsible for making it work. Thats a little different , should we individually set up trade deals, put more money into the NHS, recruit policemen etc. If you believe thats fair then thats your prerogative, all I see is sneering and finger pointing at people that voted for what they believed was the right thing. Also, one of the posters here supporting this voted leave himself.
 
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Wolf said:
I have to admit people that moan because they can't accept that some of us still have an opinion that brexit is a bad idea and should get behind the country and do what we can to make brexit work make me laugh. Because usually they're the same people saying we have freedom of speech when they want to disagree with something or someone.

I go to work I pay my taxes and contribute to society, why should I or anyone else do anything more for the country to aid with Brexit, we have highly paid elected politicians put in place to carry out that precise job. I accept that the democratic vote means we leave but it is not down me to support it or change my mind because of it, its actually down to Boris and his elected party to deliver it and other promises they have made and to prove to me and the entire nation that this is best for us as a collective.
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Brilliantly put.
 
There's one big thing the people against brexit can do. That's accept it.

For all the talk of what has to happen, there is a rift. That rift is because remainers have refused to accept the result for 3 years.

As to phils copied post. Find me a political party that has delivered all its promises and maybe I'll take it serious.

As to brexit itself. That's been held up for 3 years now. I'd settle for a hard brexit. Because thats what's best for me. And I don't trust any polictican for any party.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
The Bus was and still is a significant and iconic symbol of the Referendum - it was a big slogan with a very high monetary figure on it with a very high profile pinch point below - the marketing team knew exactly the message it was trying to say and it had an affect - people wont forget it and they expect that message to be delivered
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As iconic, or otherwise, the bus might have been it is singularly unhelpful to bring it up 3.5 years later. Its long since been rubbished, and rubbing people's faces in it is just going to cause argument at a time when its the last thing the UK needs.
 
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