Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!

[harpo_72]

Surely the SNP have to feature, they have quite a few seats

It does depend on how Labour intend to fight the GE and it does also question whether the legality of pacts between Farage and Tory party for not contesting areas but this is or has been common practice for a long time.

It really does depend on the voting public accepting that their normal voting strategy needs to be more Brexit focused.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Surely the SNP have to feature, they have quite a few seats

The only way they will feature is if a party agrees to Indy Ref 2. The Cons will not agree to that, they are also so far apart from the SNP it is not feasible, and whilst Lab are not keen on Indy Ref 2 they are desperate for power so may concede. I suspect they would only be approached if all other avenues are exhausted though. Labour would try to link with the Lib Dems first off I suspect so it depends how well they do.

One of the problems, imo, of the SNP's permanently angry approach to Westminster is that they have forgotten that to get what they want they actually need to make some friends there. They are too busy offending the other parties and so when they should be a key playmaker they are still a sideshow. They need to be smarter.

 

[patricks148]

I'm not so sure. Depends how he plays it, but he will lose some votes to the Brexit party who will no doubt be campaigning on no deal. I'd predict hung parliament with Lib Dems as the kingmakers.

Jo Swinton would jump in bed with the Tories in a heartbeat, don't think she will get the chance, i don't think she will still have seat at the next GE

 

[IanM]

They might not want Ref 2 in Scotland after the Poll that was published this morning.

But I guess this is another once in a generation vote that gets repeated till the right answer happens!

 

[harpo_72]

Jo Swinton would jump in bed with the Tories in a heartbeat, don't think she will get the chance, i don't think she will still have seat at the next GE

She needs to learn from recent history that would be political suicide ..
Whats worrying is that Boris does seem to have a following that forgive him all his horrific lying and illegal actions .. but if we are a majority of numpties, I guess that is what we are.

 

[Taz]

Jo Swinton would jump in bed with the Tories in a heartbeat, don't think she will get the chance, i don't think she will still have seat at the next GE

don't see that one at all, anyway all her new recruits will get the boot at the next GE.

 

[patricks148]

She needs to learn from recent history that would be political suicide ..
Whats worrying is that Boris does seem to have a following that forgive him all his horrific lying and illegal actions .. but if we are a majority of numpties, I guess that is what we are.

power hungry is the main thing with her, lets hope the SNP go all out for East Dunbartonshire

 

[ger147]

Could be extremely useful...

https://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news...he-other-way-in-the-referendum-20191023189999

 

[Colonel Bogey]

I'm not so sure. Depends how he plays it, but he will lose some votes to the Brexit party who will no doubt be campaigning on no deal. I'd predict hung parliament with Lib Dems as the kingmakers.

Oooo close. Nige will be the "kingmaker" as long as they agree to no deal brexit.

 

[Taz]

never thought this would happen :

Francis Elliott

@elliotttimes

EXCL: I understand Boris Johnson and Jeremy Corbyn are meeting to discuss a new programme motion.


Wonder if jezza has told the rest of his party

 

[harpo_72]

power hungry is the main thing with her, lets hope the SNP go all out for East Dunbartonshire

That would lead to a rather interesting situation

 

[clubchamp98]

The SNP should not be bothered about what the UK do, they don’t want to stay in it anyway.
If they backed Boris with a promise to have a Scottish ref when we leave the EU.
They can have a side deal with the EU.
That they will be allowed to rejoin if they vote to leave the UK.

 

[Taz]

never thought this would happen :

Francis Elliott
@elliotttimes

EXCL: I understand Boris Johnson and Jeremy Corbyn are meeting to discuss a new programme motion.


Wonder if jezza has told the rest of his party

Hear nothing was agreed at PM-Corbyn meeting - Labour wanted to discuss a different timetable for Brexit bill, govt wanted to know what Lab would do if the extension is vetoed - sounds like neither side came away with much

 

[IanM]

- Labour wanted to discuss a different timetable for Brexit bill, govt wanted to know what Lab would do if the extension is vetoed - sounds like neither side came away with much

1) Timeline ending in never
2) Labour get a pasting in a GE

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I believe he could instigate a 'vote of no confidence'!

Though I understand such a motion could be amended by the opposition. Now what fun could be had. Propose an amendment that takes control of the date of any subsequent GE out of the gift of the government? Maybe one that states that the PM has to stand down? Just musing on what could be...🙂

 

[Mudball]

Govt folks not happy that Business is not backing them enuf. So you can create a mess and then blame others for not understanding it.
https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/a...s-over-response-to-brexit-deal-121704387.html

In many ways I think this Govt (and some Leavers) are like modern abstract artist. They made a piece of fine art called ‘The Deal’ that only they understand and the installation of which is not much better than existing ‘T-Rex Deal’ and gives away control while creating an illusion of keeping it. Now they claim that the plebs - most of who never attended art classes in private schools - don’t appreciate it and therefore should be bulldozed into accepting it (or just have a major tantrum)

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

PMQs - No NI/GB border controls whatsoever - and The Deal - It’s through parliament. On the former - not what Barclay has told us; on the latter - The Deal has passed it’s 2nd reading it is not through parliament.

Now either the PM is consciously telling blatant porkies or he just doesn’t understand. I think he knows he’s just told porkies. What the heck is going on? Or maybe the audience he’s actually addressing in the country just doesn’t care

 

[Dando]

Hear nothing was agreed at PM-Corbyn meeting - Labour wanted to discuss a different timetable for Brexit bill, govt wanted to know what Lab would do if the extension is vetoed - sounds like neither side came away with much

Red Jezza has denied being there! 😂

 

[ColchesterFC]

Red Jezza has denied being there!

A photo will come out in a few days showing that he was there. At which point he'll admit being there but will then say although he was there he didn't take part in any talks.

 

[Taz]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1186970145857646592