Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!

[BubbaP]

I was hoping for a HK prediction....😁

I don't think the EU gang will politically wish to be seen to be pushing "no deal", so expecting they'll try to tie an extension in with a commitment for UK to have a GE or 2nd Ref.

 

[Dando]

I have spoken to a friend who was in town yesterday... They advised there were no where, in numbers, as many that attended the stop the Iraq war march involved... That was generally assessed as being half a million so no way was there million on the march yesterday...

Diane abacus was doing the counting!
Apparently she asked how zeros there are in a Brazilian 😂🤣

 

[clubchamp98]

I believe both Benn, particularly, and Letwin have contributed positively to getting a deal!

That’s because it’s deal or remain is the only choice now.
So much for choice.

If the people are so much better informed now than 2016 why is NO DEAL not an option.???

 

[clubchamp98]

I was hoping for a HK prediction....😁

I don't think the EU gang will politically wish to be seen to be pushing "no deal", so expecting they'll try to tie an extension in with a commitment for UK to have a GE or 2nd Ref.

So they are steering our domestic policy.

 

[Foxholer]

That’s because it’s deal or remain is the only choice now.
So much for choice.

If the people are so much better informed now than 2016 why is NO DEAL not an option.???

'No Deal' is still an option!

 

[Foxholer]

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I don't think the EU gang will politically wish to be seen to be pushing "no deal", so expecting they'll try to tie an extension in with a commitment for UK to have a GE or 2nd Ref.

So they are steering our domestic policy.

And for precisely that reason, I don't believe they'll do that!

 

[Mudball]

So the new deal now has customs checks on the Irish sea ( I know you will get a refund, but you still have to pay tax). So effectively, GB has jettisoned NI from the UK. Well done on the first step to devolution. Interestingly, it has devolved the part of the country that wanted to stay in EU. So at some point in time, NI can devolve itself and stay in EU as it has never left.

Good day for Brexiteers and Devolvers (if that is a new word)...

 

[SocketRocket]

I believe both Benn, particularly, and Letwin have contributed positively to getting a deal!

Please elaborate?

 

[Foxholer]

Please elaborate?

By incentivising BoJo to getting one! He'd have happily taken 'No Deal by default', something he'd already attempted when he prorogued Parliament for 5 weeks!

 

[SocketRocket]

By incentivising BoJo to getting one! He'd have happily taken 'No Deal by default', something he'd already attempted when he prorogued Parliament for 5 weeks!

I'm not convinced. IMO he wanted to use no deal as leverage in getting the EU to open the WA (something they said they would never do) and change the backstop thus preventing the UK from being held captive for an unspecified period, his bluster in saying we would leave what ever on the 31st October seems to have enabled him to achieve this. I give him credit for doing this even whilst Benn, Letwin, Grieves etc were doing all they could to hamstring him.

 

[harpo_72]

Speak for yourself, don't tell me what I want or don't want.

Actually there is a minority in the house who are happy to but they will be okay ... however the majority are not certain.

 

[Foxholer]

I'm not convinced. IMO he wanted to use no deal as leverage in getting the EU to open the WA (something they said they would never do) and change the backstop thus preventing the UK from being held captive for an unspecified period, his bluster in saying we would leave what ever on the 31st October seems to have enabled him to achieve this. I give him credit for doing this even whilst Benn, Letwin, Grieves etc were doing all they could to hamstring him.

So please explain how his 5 week prorogue of Parliament, only stopped by Miller's court action, would have done that?

Though I agree that it demonstrated his determination at the subsequent negotiations that he was 'forced' into.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1185843026930950144

Very good point well made

How long that soundbite been practiced , can't be off the cuff

 

[Dando]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1185843026930950144

Very good point well made

How long that soundbite been practiced , can't be off the cuff

Silly bint

 

[Foxholer]

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Very good point well made

How long that soundbite been practiced , can't be off the cuff

I disagree about 'very good point', but indeed 'well made', or, as you suggest, well rehearsed!

Silly bint

Going by that comment, I'd suggest she's far less 'silly' than you!

 

[Fade and Die]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1185843026930950144

Very good point well made

How long that soundbite been practiced , can't be off the cuff

Stupid woman conveniently forgetting that every Election result is respected and enacted upon.

 

[Blue in Munich]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1185843026930950144

Very good point well made

How long that soundbite been practiced , can't be off the cuff

So a once in a lifetime event is the same as a GE which is every 5 years or less if the Government calls it early, or a World Cup that happens every 4 years? Give me a break.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

So a once in a lifetime event is the same as a GE which is every 5 years or less if the Government calls it early, or a World Cup that happens every 4 years? Give me a break.

However if you look at the actual issue rather than rant that it should be respected and out means out. This issue has divided a nation. Proved nothing but problematic .. part of the nation feels let down (leave) part feel lied to and most feel fed up with it all.

She is 100% correct that people should vote when they are informed than when they are lied to.

The fact that 2 replies are either silly women or stupid bint .. rather disrespectful and sexist to someone who's quite respectfully made her point without insults or put downs.

We could learn rather a lot from people like this.

 

[Dando]

So a once in a lifetime event is the same as a GE which is every 5 years or less if the Government calls it early, or a World Cup that happens every 4 years? Give me a break.

All we needed was a mention of the bus and it would've been a full house in remainer bingo

 

[Fade and Die]

However if you look at the actual issue rather than rant that it should be respected and out means out. This issue has divided a nation. Proved nothing but problematic .. part of the nation feels let down (leave) part feel lied to and most feel fed up with it all.

She is 100% correct that people should vote when they are informed than when they are lied to.

The fact that 2 replies are either silly women or stupid bint .. rather disrespectful and sexist to someone who's quite respectfully made her point without insults or put downs.

We could learn rather a lot from people like this.

Yes it teaches us that some people have a massive sense of entitlement, especially if they don’t get their way.