Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!

[Blue in Munich]

No doubt and if we leave on a No Deal are people comfortable with these same people looking after our future ?

Problem is Phil, who is actually looking after our future? We've seen from this fiasco that despite the faces that are put forward as being in charge, it is clear that there are others who are having a far greater influence than those supposed to be in charge.

What this fiasco has shown is why revolutions come about. The complete contempt they reserve for those that they are supposed to serve beggars belief.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Problem is Phil, who is actually looking after our future? We've seen from this fiasco that despite the faces that are put forward as being in charge, it is clear that there are others who are having a far greater influence than those supposed to be in charge.

What this fiasco has shown is why revolutions come about. The complete contempt they reserve for those that they are supposed to serve beggars belief.

Government are supposed to be looking after it - Boris Johnson and his entitled bunch of snobs, said to someone the other day I would rather the Queen run the country , would at least be more aware of the general public

The only thing I’m confident of is this split we have no isn’t going to go away and it’s going to get worse at times

Imagine we leave and it goes to pot with jobs going , people losing out financially- the backlash could be horrific. Almost tempted to go to Ireland

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Under LBJ's worse than May's deal, it is quite simple for any EU national to enter Ireland, bus up to NI and ferry across and enter Scotland/England without the use of a passport.
My local Tory MP refused to deny that this was possible.

 

[clubchamp98]

So you think your bully the remainers into this deal ?
If we leave without a deal .. which is unlikely as the HoC will not let us and the Benn Agreement accounts for that .. the ERG and Boris will be wholly to blame.
If we remain there will be a minority of hard core leavers - but a majority of level headed people who know that the deal was never going to be great and will either work tirelessly to make sure that we are prepared to leave in the future with a strong position or we remain and influence and control the EU bodies.

It’s been proven that you can’t change or influence the EU from within.
Just ask Cameron, he got two fingers from them, that’s why we had a referendum.

 

[drdel]

I think, given MP's desire to keep the ball in play, the Letwin amendment will be passed. Then PM will not call for a vote and it'll trundle on towards 31st. The PM 'may' ask for a delay and with luck the EU might refuse.

 

[Fade and Die]

Thanks black shirt.

Don’t think Chris is a Kiwi mate.😁

 

[Blue in Munich]

Don’t think Chris is a Kiwi mate.😁

They wouldn’t have him, the sheep would object. 😄

 

[Mudball]

In other (more) important news.. one from the Leavers doing the rounds

 

[Slime]

Under LBJ's worse than May's deal, it is quite simple for any EU national to enter Ireland, bus up to NI and ferry across and enter Scotland/England without the use of a passport.
My local Tory MP refused to deny that this was possible.

What has the 36th president of The United States got to do with this?
What am I missing?

 

[Mudball]

Snap polls indicate that it might just scrape thru.. 50/50 at the moment

 

[User62651]

Snap polls indicate that it might just scrape thru.. 50/50 at the moment

Run on brown envelopes in Westminster, biggest one reserved for DUP.
Pay offs galore.

 

[Mudball]

So have the Leavers suddenly fallen in love with Mark Carney??
At first glance the BBC headline is that he is positive about the deal... if you re-read the article about 3 times, it is not a glorious endorsement of the deal.
But who cares about the details.. I m sure he is the toast of the Leavers Lounge

 

[ger147]

Letwin amendment carried, 322 to 306.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

So BJ says he won’t ask for a delay but doesn’t that vote mean he now has to ask for a delay anyway ?!

 

[Mudball]

So BJ says he won’t ask for a delay but doesn’t that vote mean he now has to ask for a delay anyway ?!

does it matter to him?

 

[Hacker Khan]

Think we're into 'making it up as we go along' territory. Again.

 

[User62651]

So BJ says he won’t ask for a delay but doesn’t that vote mean he now has to ask for a delay anyway ?!

If he can't do Halloween, I think he may resign ahead of having to ask to extend. Only way he cant ask. Even if he knew that one of the EU countries would veto an extension he still needs to ask first.

 

[MegaSteve]

Well, here's hoping Brussels patience is exhausted, with Westminster, and they invite us to GF&M...

 

[ger147]

If he can't do Halloween, I think he may resign ahead of having to ask to extend. Only way he cant ask. Even if he knew that one of the EU countries would veto an extension he still needs to ask first.

His deadline to ask is today not the 31st Oct, so if resigning is his plan wee Liz could miss the Strictly results tomorrow night...

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Lying 'Boris' Johnson [LBJ] gutted that his.....if you sign on the bottom line tonight, you get a 20% discount...... tactic fails.

Rees-Moggy stormed off in a strop from his Leader of the Hoose job, leaving HoC future business in disarray.