Old Skier
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And a number of well paid and knowledgeable judges agreed with him.
Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!
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Old Skier
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Goodness that escalated quickly, we now have African nations threatening to suspend the UK from the Commonwealth if the UK Government continues the ignore the rule of law.
Nigeria a country permanently under political turmoil, anymore gems you want to throw out there.
Old Skier
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Well Parliament is back up and running and going over the same old same old on Brexit. Great use of the time they were so desperate to have.
Doon frae Troon
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Well it is in the news so it must be 'newsworthy'.
Unlike you I did not realise it had been in the news for a couple of weeks though.
clubchamp98
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Yes that does need explaining in my opinion.
How can three senior judges say it’s none of the courts business !
Then eleven to none say it’s illegal.
Have they actually said what law was broken?
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Well it is in the news so it must be 'newsworthy'.
Unlike you I did not realise it had been in the news for a couple of weeks though.
It would actually help if you quantify the statement, provide some background , add some substance, even add the link to the news report you saw instead of just posting like a red top rag with a “catching headline†.
Because clearly if you drill into it then the “headline†is very weak indeed and just the work of someone looking to stir things up - sound about right ?
ger147
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Boris up at 6:30pm, this should be a good laff...
Foxholer
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There was no law 'broken'!
The ruling was that that proroguing Parliament as he did was 'unlawful'. A subtle, but important difference.
Breaking a law is doing something you are specifically not allowed to do. Doing something that is 'unlawful' requires a judgement that you are 'not allowed to do that'.
Having provided that judgement, a 'Principle' has been established/reinforced, but no new law. It is, after all, only Parliament that can create Laws! It's the role of the courts to rule and interpret, from submissions from solicitors/barristers, those laws.
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Swinglowandslow
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Jeremy doesn't think so. Not now the gauntlet has been thrown down in front of him
ger147
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Corbyn is useless at the despatch box in these moments of high drama IMO. If he wants Boris to resign he should ask for a lift to the job centre...
clubchamp98
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Thanks for the explanation.
But I must say that’s a very grey area for judges to sit on .
They could rule something unlawful even though there is no law to break.
Politics is a dirty game but I thought the law was black and white,
Can Boris just do it again after all can there be any punishment if you are not breaking any laws.?
clubchamp98
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According to Andrew Neil nothing can be done until 17th October when the Benn bill becomes law.
So a no confidence vote won’t happen until then or later.
So why all the court case and shouting about prorouging ,when they are not going to do anything in the chamber except insult each other until then.
I can hear the EU laughing .
So a no confidence vote won’t happen until then or later.
So why all the court case and shouting about prorouging ,when they are not going to do anything in the chamber except insult each other until then.
I can hear the EU laughing .
clubchamp98
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What I don’t like about this is Jeremy won’t have a GE now because he thinks it favours Boris.
But he wants to wait until it suits Him after calling for one for years.
What gives the opposition in the Hoc the right to exclude my right to vote for a NO DEAL IN THE GE.
Foxholer
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Well, I believe the procedure reads along the lines of 'The PM may advise HM The Queen to prorogue Parliament for the purpose of...' and it was that 'for the purpose of' that was the point of contention. Preventing Patliament from performing its constitutional duties is not one of those purposes!
Give that it's The Queen that actually does the prorogation, I believe she would take advice and decline - up to the 'normal' period before Queen's Speech.
Doon frae Troon
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Johnson is behaving disgracefully in the HoC.
Really showing himself up.
Really showing himself up.
It's posturing and point scoring. Pretty pathetic and not endearing themselves to the public.
MPs really should record and watch back how they look in the HoC and watch it with people not involved. They live in a bubble and don't seem to realise how bad it all looks.
Foxholer
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Neil was probably specifically refering to Brexit legislation! There's still plenty of other work to be done by/in Parliament!
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clubchamp98
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It does seem very odd though as Boris is just relaying advice from the legal eagles in his government to the Queen.
You would think they could see this coming.
Or they were just trying it on.
clubchamp98
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Yes that is when we can’t leave with no deal.
That should be up to us to decide though in an election not the opposition in hoc.
But I really can’t see them getting anything else done until Brexit is sorted.
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Make your mind up eh!
On the 10th September you agreed I’d proved my point, now I’m accused by you of deliberately misinterpreting his post.
I was never confused, the ONLY point I made was that he called remainers losers and not for the first time.
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