Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!

Status
Not open for further replies.
Well if no actual law was broken !
Then the 11 judges are only giving their opinion ,
Is that correct or am missing something?
Their ruling was that he wasn't allowed to do what he did!
So, Yes you were missing something! As well as an 'I'!
 
Last edited:
Johnson practically on his knees begging the opposition for an election.
Extraordinary behaviour from a UK PM.

You were not watching the same thing as me. Johnson is challenging Corbyn to have some guts and let "no deal" be one of the options to be voted on by the public , by having a GE now. As it is, if Corbyn is delaying a GE as he claims, in order to prevent no deal, he really is insulting the public by denying them a say on it.
That doesn't matter to Corbyn (and Swinson). Of course, they know best, don't they?
Not only is Johnson challenging Corbyn to a GE, he also is giving him the opportunity to try to form a government without a GE. That's what would happen if Corbyn tabled a vote of no confidence and won it, (according to the political commentators.)
Corbyn is even afraid of that! He is afraid that this parliament, who he thinks he leads against Boris, will not allow him to be PM when push comes to shove.
Would he be as brave to make such a challenge as Boris has made .? After all, Boris has a lot more to lose than Corbyn.
But no. As has been said, he is "frit "

All they have been reduced to is being offended by Johnson's "language"
The go - to tactic these days is to be so readily offended, as Society has become too.
If Johnson's language was so offensive I'm sure the Speaker would have pounced on it as he does at most breaches of parliamentary protocol, and as he did to your SNP man this evening , which you forgot to mention when commenting on behaviour in the House.😉
 
Their ruling was that he wasn't allowed to do what he did!
So, Yes you were missing something! As wall as an 'I'!
If he wasn't allowed then is there a law that prohibits it ? If the answer is 'No' then how can a court of law make a judgement. I just have this feeling that we now have Lawyers deciding politics which is a concern, the High court in England which has qualified judges decided that this was political matter, how could they be so wrong.
 
You were not watching the same thing as me. Johnson is challenging Corbyn to have some guts and let "no deal" be one of the options to be voted on by the public , by having a GE now. As it is, if Corbyn is delaying a GE as he claims, in order to prevent no deal, he really is insulting the public by denying them a say on it.
That doesn't matter to Corbyn (and Swinson). Of course, they know best, don't they?
Not only is Johnson challenging Corbyn to a GE, he also is giving him the opportunity to try to form a government without a GE. That's what would happen if Corbyn tabled a vote of no confidence and won it, (according to the political commentators.)
Corbyn is even afraid of that! He is afraid that this parliament, who he thinks he leads against Boris, will not allow him to be PM when push comes to shove.
Would he be as brave to make such a challenge as Boris has made .? After all, Boris has a lot more to lose than Corbyn.
But no. As has been said, he is "frit "

All they have been reduced to is being offended by Johnson's "language"
The go - to tactic these days is to be so readily offended, as Society has become too.
If Johnson's language was so offensive I'm sure the Speaker would have pounced on it as he does at most breaches of parliamentary protocol, and as he did to your SNP man this evening , which you forgot to mention when commenting on behaviour in the House.😉

Johnson/Gove/Cumming's tactics have totally backfired on them and now leave them even more powerless than a -40 seat majority Government can be.
All the 'rebel alliance' has to do is sit in parliament and twiddle their fingers and Johnson and his extremist Tory faction are history.
You can almost touch Johnsons helplessness.
 
In their opinion .
I thought law courts dealt in facts only.
Definitely other things are involved, especially at that level. They may have to interpret the law where no precedent exists. And, where necessary, decide what evidence is relevant and whether to accept/believe/agree with the arguments put forward by the advocares involved.
 
Last edited:
If he wasn't allowed then is there a law that prohibits it ? If the answer is 'No' then how can a court of law make a judgement. I just have this feeling that we now have Lawyers deciding politics which is a concern, the High court in England which has qualified judges decided that this was political matter, how could they be so wrong.
This article explains it perfectly https://commonslibrary.parliament.u...preme-court-on-the-prorogation-of-parliament/

But, to answer your questions...Yes there IS a law/precedent that, in certain situations, prevents it.
But before that The Court(s) had to decide whether it was somthing there could rule on in the first place - whether it was 'justiciable'. The High Court of England and Wales decided they could not; The Supreme Court decided they could - as did the Court of Session (in Scotland).
 
After the debate and before the Leader of the House debate they all agreed to moderate their tone and language, 22 minutes into the debate the first person to forget was -------- the SNP MP. Sad people all round.

no chance when the referee is biased.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top