Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!

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But between Boris resigning and being replaced we wouldn't have a PM to ask for an extension and the law as it appears to be written is that it is the PM that has to ask for the extension.

According to the pundits who were anticipating possible moves by Boris to get an election, one was that he would resign as PM which would mean that Corbin would be asked by the Queen if he could form a government. If he could not( and why he could or could not is not known to me, some sort of
Parliament rules etc ?), then an election would follow.
If this is so, it could be his last throw of the dice, rather than go to Brussels as the new law requires.
From what he has been saying, I think he would "throw the dice"
 
According to the pundits who were anticipating possible moves by Boris to get an election, one was that he would resign as PM which would mean that Corbin would be asked by the Queen if he could form a government. If he could not( and why he could or could not is not known to me, some sort of
Parliament rules etc ?), then an election would follow.
If this is so, it could be his last throw of the dice, rather than go to Brussels as the new law requires.
From what he has been saying, I think he would "throw the dice"
How has it come to this ?
It’s an absolute joke.
These people have no shame at all and will claim it’s all planed when the dust settles .
Whatever side eventually wins.
 
Well all I can say is I'm bloody glad I never had a Board of Directors that talked about what was said and planned in the Board room.

What happened to collective responsibility and simple negotiation strategy - dam clowns.
 
Sorry but that's just garbage. Kind of naff over the top melodramatic stuff you see on Facebook all the time.
The only reply to that would would be "U ok hun"
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And her answer could well be 'No, I'm p***ed off that those, in a position to do so, who promised to implement the result of the referendum haven't been able to do so and, in fact, seem determined to prevent it!'.
Naff, over the top, melodramatic, perhaps. But not an unreasonable attitude for someone who voted leave imo!

Btw. I voted Remain!
 
And her answer could well be 'No, I'm p***ed off that those, in a position to do so, who promised to implement the result of the referendum haven't been able to do so and, in fact, seem determined to prevent it!'.
Naff, over the top, melodramatic, perhaps. But not an unreasonable attitude for someone who voted leave imo!

Btw. I voted Remain!
If someone could assure me that leaving the EU would improve our quality of life, retain our standards, not screw employees, reduce the growing inequality between the rich, not leave us worse off economically and is not just an opportunity for a few people to make themselves richer then I'll be converted!
 
If someone could assure me that leaving the EU would improve our quality of life, retain our standards, not screw employees, reduce the growing inequality between the rich, not leave us worse off economically and is not just an opportunity for a few people to make themselves richer then I'll be converted!

I can assure you that leaving the EU will improve our quality of life, retain our standards, not screw employees, reduce the growing inequality between the rich, not leave us worse off economically and is not just an opportunity for a few people to make themselves richer.

There you go, consider yourself converted. (y)




N.B. All of the first sentence above could be politely considered to be the brown stuff that comes out of the back end of a male cow.
 
Sorry but that's just garbage. Kind of naff over the top melodramatic stuff you see on Facebook all the time.
The only reply to that would would be "U ok hun"
🤣🤣
I'd have to agree. The notion that the vote has been ignored is odd seeing as we have talked about nothing else for 3 years and would actually have left in march if it wasn't for the ERG, but no, lets blame everyone else.
 
I'd have to agree. The notion that the vote has been ignored is odd seeing as we have talked about nothing else for 3 years and would actually have left in march if it wasn't for the ERG, but no, lets blame everyone else.

The narrative is all aroud blame from the Depfeffel camp and making sure none lands on him. They could have supported May and we would be negotiating the actual deal now. And I know that plenty will be in with the “that was a *** deal” narrative but that’s subjective. There was always going to be a great deal of compromise needed , unless you are very naive which plenty are.
 
Sorry but that's just garbage. Kind of naff over the top melodramatic stuff you see on Facebook all the time.
The only reply to that would would be "U ok hun"
🤣🤣
Yet millions of voters feel that way. If as said it was published as a times piece. We are not talking about a gossip column. I said this the other week, this debate has got into a slanging match. We are happy to slag off politicians, but members of the public are even worse that they cannot respect an opposing view.
 
If someone could assure me that leaving the EU would improve our quality of life, retain our standards, not screw employees, reduce the growing inequality between the rich, not leave us worse off economically and is not just an opportunity for a few people to make themselves richer then I'll be converted!
I think your honest comment only hits the nail halfway down. Bottom line Is no one really knows if we will be better off. But for the nail to be knocked all the way down. We do know what will happen if we stay in the EU re laws and rules. And that is what some people do not want.
 
Thoughts on this one.
The speaker of the House, mr John Bercow is a Tory stepped down from his allgiance to the party to take up the office. Understandable. He is then unopposed in his constituency while he holds office. However the Tories have now said they will put an MP against him at the next election as he went on record at the Edinburgh fringe festival as saying " he will fight Brexit/ no deal til the very end".
Now my point is this. How can he be impartial. If he is not why is he sat there.
 
Yet millions of voters feel that way. If as said it was published as a times piece. We are not talking about a gossip column. I said this the other week, this debate has got into a slanging match. We are happy to slag off politicians, but members of the public are even worse that they cannot respect an opposing view.

I have real sympathy for those who have been disenfranchised by voting leave on the back of all the bullshit sound bites about “easiest deal in history” and then being let down by the Tories when it turns out it isn’t that easy.

I have no sympathy when we don’t apportion blame correctly to those who peddled those messages and are now totally proven incompetent to deliver anything.

Reading the narrative from the leave side in this thread you would think that “no deal” is the only acceptable outcome these days.

I voted remain but can understand that we lost (though to be fair I had £500 on leave at 7-2 so happy days) . A 52/48 split of those who voted suggests a very divided country which is borne out repeatedly In threads like this. In order to get some consensus back in politics the worst thing is to try and bulldoze a no deal through which ignores those 48%.
 
If someone could assure me that leaving the EU would improve our quality of life, retain our standards, not screw employees, reduce the growing inequality between the rich, not leave us worse off economically and is not just an opportunity for a few people to make themselves richer then I'll be converted!

Can you answer the same question for staying in the EU?
 
I have real sympathy for those who have been disenfranchised by voting leave on the back of all the bullshit sound bites about “easiest deal in history” and then being let down by the Tories when it turns out it isn’t that easy.

I have no sympathy when we don’t apportion blame correctly to those who peddled those messages and are now totally proven incompetent to deliver anything.

Reading the narrative from the leave side in this thread you would think that “no deal” is the only acceptable outcome these days.

I voted remain but can understand that we lost (though to be fair I had £500 on leave at 7-2 so happy days) . A 52/48 split of those who voted suggests a very divided country which is borne out repeatedly In threads like this. In order to get some consensus back in politics the worst thing is to try and bulldoze a no deal through which ignores those 48%.

Wrong obviously. The worst thing would be to ignore the majority completely. Which is what Parliament is trying to do now.
 
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