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Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!

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To quote my brother...

“Her deal will pass. Bojob will renege on it. Hard brexit. Scottish independence. United Ireland. Kingdom of England & Wales. NHS privatisation complete. The UK falls out of top 10 richest nations.”
 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47725529

So The PM has said she will quit if the deal goes through and now people like Boris Johnson will back the deal ?!? How big a bunch of hypocrites are these people

This is what he said yesterday


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As we are currently fed the line that people should have a second vote as many have changed their minds since the referendum and democracy means you are allowed to change your mind then what is he or JRM doing that is different. One could also suggest they are doing it in the best interest of the country rather than putting self interest first, which is what most of the wasters in parliament are doing.
 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47725529

So The PM has said she will quit if the deal goes through and now people like Boris Johnson will back the deal ?!? How big a bunch of hypocrites are these people

This is what he said yesterday


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She should be charged with something for even making the offer, it's outrageous.

If her deal was the crock of :poop: it is supposed to be before the offer & not fit for purpose it will be the same crock of :poop: not fit for purpose after she has gone. Bercow should not allow a vote on it if her resignation is the only substantial difference.
 
As we are currently fed the line that people should have a second vote as many have changed their minds since the referendum and democracy means you are allowed to change your mind then what is he or JRM doing that is different. One could also suggest they are doing it in the best interest of the country rather than putting self interest first, which is what most of the wasters in parliament are doing.

Not putting self interest first my backside; if they vote for it now self interest is their only reason as it gets rid of May.
 
She should be charged with something for even making the offer, it's outrageous.

If her deal was the crock of :poop: it is supposed to be before the offer & not fit for purpose it will be the same crock of :poop: not fit for purpose after she has gone. Bercow should not allow a vote on it if her resignation is the only substantial difference.

It’s shocking - the deal was deemed not good enough , the PM tried to get the best she could and the EU were always going to make sure it favoured them

They decided the deal wasn’t good enough - so now May has said she will resign if it goes through and now that deal is good enough for people like Johnson and that JRM bloke ?!

What has suddenly made the deal good enough for them - simply the fact that TM going allows them to enhance their own career - the change in heart is purely down to their own ambitions and doesn’t once think of what’s good for the people of the UK

As each day goes by the MP’s level of self interest increases - bring back the Queen imo
 
As we are currently fed the line that people should have a second vote as many have changed their minds since the referendum and democracy means you are allowed to change your mind then what is he or JRM doing that is different. One could also suggest they are doing it in the best interest of the country rather than putting self interest first, which is what most of the wasters in parliament are doing.
If it Corbyn and Labour politicians were acting this way you’d be going scandalous!
She and them have caused this mess and now to even consider suggesting they are doing it in the best interest of the Country is embarrassing.
 
She should be charged with something for even making the offer, it's outrageous.

If her deal was the crock of :poop: it is supposed to be before the offer & not fit for purpose it will be the same crock of :poop: not fit for purpose after she has gone. Bercow should not allow a vote on it if her resignation is the only substantial difference.
I believe she is offering to go so others can carry out the negotiations on the future arrangements. I agree her deal is rubbish but if it does by some chance go through then i would prefer a new negotiating team, they can't do a worse job. Its all probably hypothetical anyway as Burcow sounds like he will block it.
 
As we are currently fed the line that people should have a second vote as many have changed their minds since the referendum and democracy means you are allowed to change your mind then what is he or JRM doing that is different. One could also suggest they are doing it in the best interest of the country rather than putting self interest first, which is what most of the wasters in parliament are doing.

Seriously ? You really think they are suddenly changing their minds is because of putting the best interest of the country ?! 😂😂😂😂

They are only doing it because TM has said she will retire.
 
Not putting self interest first my backside; if they vote for it now self interest is their only reason as it gets rid of May.

Spot on BIM, but in essence no different from Corbyn who wants a GE because TM'S failure is the only opportunity that bunch of chancers have of being elected.

Hardly any of them are interested in Brexit/Remain, ahead of their own political ambitions- we should sack the lot!
 
If it Corbyn and Labour politicians were acting this way you’d be going scandalous!
She and them have caused this mess and now to even consider suggesting they are doing it in the best interest of the Country is embarrassing.
She caused this mess, they just wanted us to leave. I am only pointing out the parallels regarding people changing their minds, surely if its ok for the electorate then its ok for them.
 
Seriously ? You really think they are suddenly changing their minds is because of putting the best interest of the country ?! 😂😂😂😂

They are only doing it because TM has said she will retire.
No, I'm not, try reading my post before replying to it.
I pointed out the hypocracy the way remainers seem to think its ok for the electorate to change their minds as this is democratic but its not when these guys do it. I make no explanation to their reasons. 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
 
No, I'm not, try reading my post before replying to it.
I pointed out the hypocracy the way remainers seem to think its ok for the electorate to change their minds as this is democratic but its not when these guys do it. I make no explanation to their reasons. 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
So, is it ok or isn't it?
 
If it Corbyn and Labour politicians were acting this way you’d be going scandalous!
She and them have caused this mess and now to even consider suggesting they are doing it in the best interest of the Country is embarrassing.

Corbyn and Co are behaving scandalously, the whole process for them is simply an attempt to seize power as they stand no chance otherwise. Corbyn has no Brexit policy that delivers on the referendum and they are an embarrassment to the Labour tradition.
 
No, I'm not, try reading my post before replying to it.
I pointed out the hypocracy the way remainers seem to think its ok for the electorate to change their minds as this is democratic but its not when these guys do it. I make no explanation to their reasons. 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄


Seriously ?! You really think it’s hypocritical for people to point out that Boris Johnson and Co are only backing a bad deal to further their own career - can you explain what has changed since Johnson’s statement yesterday.

Many people have changed their minds over a two year period for acceptable reasons whether that’s going from leave to remain or vice versa

But this is two snakes flipping at the drop of a hat. Even though you did say “one could suggest they are doing it for the best for the country “ 😂😂

I suspect 99.99 % can just see it for what it is

Then there is you who is using it to score points.
 
So, is it ok or isn't it?
Surely that's their decision. Do I think its OK that you want us to remain, of course I do as that's your right to choose as you wish. I have my preferences that i would hope you would respect and although we can debate our reasons for our decisions we shouldnt suggest we have no right to make them.
 
Corbyn and Co are behaving scandalously, the whole process for them is simply an attempt to seize power as they stand no chance otherwise. Corbyn has no Brexit policy that delivers on the referendum and they are an embarrassment to the Labour tradition.
In your opinion, I voted leave and put my trust in the Government, that Government is the Tory party backed by the DUP, Labour and everyone other party has had absolutely no say in the deal, they like many others think she’s negotiated a bad deal.
The alternatives Labour and others have put forward have been rejected by TM, what options are left?
How would you expect any Party in opposition to behave if they have constantly been ignored.
Her plan is bad, why are we even discussing Labour.
Look at tonight, TM promises to resign, Tories back her deal, pay the DUP to back the deal, all the Labour and other Parties behaviour becomes irrelevant.
The deflection on to Labour and other parties is no more than smoke and mirrors to hide the rubbish TM has negotiated.
 
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