Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!

[SocketRocket]

(Thread ban off as it's f all to do with Brexit)

Did you actually read the article?
There's an explanation of how it will work. Temp overrides are allowable just by pressing the accelerator. This is designed for exactly that situation.
GPS will recognise the road you're on and a camera in the car can read road signs.. Simple..

Also, I'm more than a bit interested in certain individuals apparent distrust of Germans.. If anyone wants to discuss it with me then I'll happily PM you my address and you can explain it in person

(Thread ban back on again as it's much funnier just reading it.)

Bombed our chipshop 😉

 

[bluewolf]

Sod it.. There's simply too much fun to be had on this thread...

I just can't help but think that Rees-Mogg is getting absolutely desperate to avoid even a short extension to Art 50.. So desperate in fact that he's happy to become a "Vassal State" just to avoid it.. I genuinely wonder just what it is that is frightening him that much.. Just what could possibly be happening next week?

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Sod it.. There's simply too much fun to be had on this thread...

I just can't help but think that Rees-Mogg is getting absolutely desperate to avoid even a short extension to Art 50.. So desperate in fact that he's happy to become a "Vassal State" just to avoid it.. I genuinely wonder just what it is that is frightening him that much.. Just what could possibly be happening next week?

Welcome back mate, breaking strain of a Kit-Kat.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Did you actually read the article?
There's an explanation of how it will work. Temp overrides are allowable just by pressing the accelerator. This is designed for exactly that situation.
GPS will recognise the road you're on and a camera in the car can read road signs.. Simple..

Heard it on the breakfast news this morning, skimmed the article at work, but no, had not read it in full. No need to now when you have explained it well in far fewer words . Ultimately it is a pre cursor to autonomous cars then, should they ever happen.

Could you do a general precee on Brexit each day so that I don't have to read internet news sites?

 

[bluewolf]

Welcome back mate, breaking strain of a Kit-Kat.

I know.. I lasted longer than I thought though.. It's just been so funny reading the posts over the last few weeks..
Some really good points made by both sides. Drdel is someone who's views I've been very interested in.

 

[bluewolf]

Heard it on the breakfast news this morning, skimmed the article at work, but no, had not read it in full. No need to now when you have explained it well in far fewer words . Ultimately it is a pre cursor to autonomous cars then, should they ever happen.

Could you do a general precee on Brexit each day so that I don't have to read internet news sites?

No worries...

It's sh!t. We've borrocksed it right up. We're a laughing stock of pretty much the entire World (except America as they have their own problems). We've already damaged our reputation so much that whether we leave or not is almost irrelevant. Some people still hate the Germans just because they've accepted and integrated being European. The ERG is imploding quicker that Marc Francois' brain when confronted with a Child's Trivial Pursuit question. Rees-Mogg has finally shown his true colours.

I'll just copy and paste this tomorrow as well.

 

[Mudball]

"The European Commission - in charge of drafting EU legislation - made the proposal last year, after a public consultation which showed 84% of respondents wanting to scrap the biannual clock changes. There were 4.6 million replies in that consultation, 70% of which were from Germans. "

Scary thing is, 70% of respondents were GERMANS. And so it begins.........

Not really.. it is down to who decided to turn up on the day of the consultation... Looks like the Germans did and now they want it implemneted.. Scotland and NI feel the same way with how Eng & Wales voted. Equally some of the kids (who did not bother to turn up) now feel about the other generations who did..

... So is the nature of any public consultation / referendum.. As a popular term at the start was.. 'Suck it, you lost... '

 

[Hobbit]

No worries...

It's sh!t. We've borrocksed it right up. We're a laughing stock of pretty much the entire World (except America as they have their own problems). We've already damaged our reputation so much that whether we leave or not is almost irrelevant. Some people still hate the Germans just because they've accepted and integrated being European. The ERG is imploding quicker that Marc Francois' brain when confronted with a Child's Trivial Pursuit question. Rees-Mogg has finally shown his true colours.

I'll just copy and paste this tomorrow as well.

No copying or pasting! You'll have the copy and paste police chasing you!

 

[Deleted member 16999]

I know.. I lasted longer than I thought though.. It's just been so funny reading the posts over the last few weeks..
Some really good points made by both sides. Drdel is someone who's views I've been very interested in.

Far easier to say you’re out than to stick to it! Been there, done that.

Found the last week very surprising on both sides to be honest.
I voted out, like to think I did it for genuine reasons after doing some research and personal feelings etc.
But what surprises me the most is the belief by others (Golf Club and Pub) who voted out that some how on March 30th we’d be different or suddenly a lot of our “issues/problems” would suddenly disappear, when you chat to them and explain the transition period or possible short term pain we’d likely experience until we get to the place, I or others, would like to be they look at you as if you’re trying to trick them. Simply deluded in what they thought was going to happen overnight.

 

[Hobbit]

Far easier to say you’re out than to stick to it! Been there, done that.

Found the last week very surprising on both sides to be honest.
I voted out, like to think I did it for genuine reasons after doing some research and personal feelings etc.
But what surprises me the most is the belief by others (Golf Club and Pub) who voted out that some how on March 30th we’d be different or suddenly a lot of our “issues/problems” would suddenly disappear, when you chat to them and explain the transition period or possible short term pain we’d likely experience until we get to the place, I or others, would like to be they look at you as if you’re trying to trick them. Simply deluded in what they thought was going to happen overnight.

To be honest Paul, I think there's some not so bright people on both sides of the argument. I had an avid, vocal Remainer ask me yesterday, when discussing the government's authority, who is Gina Miller?!

 

[Deleted member 16999]

To be honest Paul, I think there's some not so bright people on both sides of the argument. I had an avid, vocal Remainer ask me yesterday, when discussing the government's authority, who is Gina Miller?!

No doubt mate, that was just conversations over the last few days, as soon as they started “I’m fuming they are delaying us leaving” I ask them why, most popular answer was “because” and no other words.

 

[bluewolf]

Far easier to say you’re out than to stick to it! Been there, done that.

Found the last week very surprising on both sides to be honest.
I voted out, like to think I did it for genuine reasons after doing some research and personal feelings etc.
But what surprises me the most is the belief by others (Golf Club and Pub) who voted out that some how on March 30th we’d be different or suddenly a lot of our “issues/problems” would suddenly disappear, when you chat to them and explain the transition period or possible short term pain we’d likely experience until we get to the place, I or others, would like to be they look at you as if you’re trying to trick them. Simply deluded in what they thought was going to happen overnight.

I've been fairly open about the fact I voted Remain. I said at the time that I was 60/40 on the decision and could see the economic argument for both sides. What swayed me was the Social Cohesion aspect. I much prefer the idea of a United Europe. A political and social powerhouse. My Parents voted Leave at the time but are now staunch Remainers due to the effect that this is having on my Sister's family. She has a multi-million pound business in the UK but lives in Southern Spain with her Husband and Family. They face the possibility of having to leave the life they love and return to the UK just to keep the Business running. They actually flew back to London last weekend to join the Anti-Brexit march.

My only wish now is that whatever happens, there is a full independant inquiry into the whole process. I want any Politician who is shown to have profited from this mess to be treated as a traitor. I don't care what side they're on, or who's rosette they wear. I want any Leading Business figure who has actively lied, cheated and manipulated the vote to be sent down for a very long time..

 

[Hacker Khan]

I've been fairly open about the fact I voted Remain. I said at the time that I was 60/40 on the decision and could see the economic argument for both sides. What swayed me was the Social Cohesion aspect. I much prefer the idea of a United Europe. A political and social powerhouse. My Parents voted Leave at the time but are now staunch Remainers due to the effect that this is having on my Sister's family. She has a multi-million pound business in the UK but lives in Southern Spain with her Husband and Family. They face the possibility of having to leave the life they love and return to the UK just to keep the Business running. They actually flew back to London last weekend to join the Anti-Brexit march.

My only wish now is that whatever happens, there is a full independant inquiry into the whole process. I want any Politician who is shown to have profited from this mess to be treated as a traitor. I don't care what side they're on, or who's rosette they wear. I want any Leading Business figure who has actively lied, cheated and manipulated the vote to be sent down for a very long time..

Christ on a bike, the process itself is taking long enough, by the time an independent inquiry has finished we'll all be old and senile and have forgotten about it anyway.

 

[Kellfire]

Everyone’s making moves now. JRM is now backing the deal, Corbyn is coming off the fence to say he’ll whip his lot to back a second referendum potentially losing the shadow cabinet in the process. All very exciting.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1110210645134360576

Nicola Sturgeon is nearly twice as popular as May and more than twice as popular than Jeremy Corbyn.
Both May and Corbyn trail Cable.

 

[Kellfire]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1110210645134360576

Nicola Sturgeon is nearly twice as popular as May and more than twice as popular than Jeremy Corbyn.
Both May and Corbyn trail Cable.

"among their own voters"

Non event.

 

[drdel]

Donald Tusk has demonstrated the EU's unique way with democracy and arithmetic.

He suggests we recognise the 5million signatures and the 1 million marching to Remain but by inference, ignore the 17million voters for Leaving.

Obviously he went to the D Abbott, School for Political Maths.

No wonder the EU budget is out of control and Bloomberg reports accuse the EU Finance Minsters and the ECB of having no idea.

 

[jp5]

Donald Tusk has demonstrated the EU's unique way with democracy and arithmetic.

He suggests we recognise the 5million signatures and the 1 million marching to Remain but by inference, ignore the 17million voters for Leaving.

That's yer mistake there... you've inferred wrong.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

"among their own voters"

Non event.

Read a bit further, not the headline.
Seemingly she is very popular in England.
Remember it is a poll about leadership.

 

[GB72]

Listening to some figures yesterday and ntoed that about 60% of remainers dislike the May deal as do about 60% of leavers. In negotiation terms, she has got it pretty much spot on. In a deal where there are 2 polar opposites, the fairest result is one that is liked or disliked by about half of each camp. On that basis, May has pretty much found the perfect middle ground. Trouble is, when a deal like that has to be put to a vote, you are rarely going to win out as, despite it technically being fair to both sides, both sides will not see it as a victory and so will vote against.