Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!

[Foxholer]

I dont share that level of cynicism, there are many Politicians of all parties who are honourable people with good intentions.

I agree! But, imo, there's a certain amount of 'hipocracy' that seems to be a 'requirement of the job' - at least in The Commons! It seems to me that there's more scope for genuine freedom and ideals in 'the other place'! That's part of the reasons why i'm a fan of the 2-house system!

 

[harpo_72]

The Tories only have a few policies.
1. Sell it, make a few people rich, screw the rest.
2. Reduce the taxes on the people who can afford to pay taxes, causing a degeneration of public services.

Those are pretty destructive in their own right.
Labour ? Only had one meaningful stint in power in my life time. Everything was fine the economy was under control, until the bankers “took the piss”, but there was a push to de-shackle them from certain quarters. Oh and the Iraq war which was agreed to by nearly everyone and their dog in the house, so they are all to blame for that.

So where does that leave us? Corbyn is no worse than the Tories until he proves otherwise and all views on his performance are speculative and have no evidence to back them up - so definitely “project FEAR” 🤣🤣🤣

 

[Hobbit]

Right now, yes I would if they did what they promised in their manifesto.
Have our Armed Forces improved or declined under the Tories?
At least Labour continually exceeded the 2% of GDP on Defence when in charge, the tories are not doing that, we now have fewer planes, ships, people.
But try and have a discusdion on this and straight away we get the same old, same old, terrorist sympathiser.

The Labour Party of today is a very different beast than the one that was in govt. When you’ve got long standing MP’s like Ian Austin leaving there’s a serious problem.

And as for the whiff of anti-semitism that just won’t go away. 673 cases of alleged Antisemitism investigated in the Labour Party in the last 9 months. Not half a doz or 20, 673. 12 members kicked out, and Derek Hatton, the day after being reinstated, suspended...

 

[Deleted member 1740]

😂😂 Good try but a bit pathetic considering your previous.

I'm glad you find it funny, why did you edit your original response?

Coward

 

[SocketRocket]

I'm glad you find it funny, why did you edit your original response?

Coward

Because I released that you were not attacking my post as such but trying to score points. I refer you to that post where you suggested anyone who voted leave deserved to be punished and how you are trying to have a handbag fight over it. Grow up matey

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Because I released that you were not attacking my post as such but trying to score points. I refer you to that post where you suggested anyone who voted leave deserved to be punished and how you are trying to have a handbag fight over it. Grow up matey

Actually i wasnt, it was a disgusting post.

I've said my piece on that issue and no matter how much you want to go round in circles, as you usually do, i won't.

I suggest you heed your own advice.

 

[SocketRocket]

Right now, yes I would if they did what they promised in their manifesto.
Have our Armed Forces improved or declined under the Tories?
At least Labour continually exceeded the 2% of GDP on Defence when in charge, the tories are not doing that, we now have fewer planes, ships, people.
But try and have a discusdion on this and straight away we get the same old, same old, terrorist sympathiser.

You are prevaricating again. The discussion was about Corbyn going to the EU to have talks with Barnier behind the Governments back. You started off on one about the war.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

You are prevaricating again. The discussion was about Corbyn going to the EU to have talks with Barnier behind the Governments back. You started off on one about the war.

No, my original post was in response to the about Corbyn and the same old lazy comments and flag waving.
You decided to answer my post.

If someone wants to criticise Corbyn and whether he should or should get involved with Brexit fine, but use facts, it certainly wasn’t behind anyones back it was announced days ago, so connecting it to yesterday’s flypast and his supposed terrorist links etc is wrong imo.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

The Labour Party of today is a very different beast than the one that was in govt. When you’ve got long standing MP’s like Ian Austin leaving there’s a serious problem.

And as for the whiff of anti-semitism that just won’t go away. 673 cases of alleged Antisemitism investigated in the Labour Party in the last 9 months. Not half a doz or 20, 673. 12 members kicked out, and Derek Hatton, the day after being reinstated, suspended...

Maybe so Brian, no issue with that and guess what, you’ve stated facts not dropped back to the lazy historical unproven stuff.

 

[SocketRocket]

Flypast! Who mentioned a Flypast?

You seem to be getting confused, I only posted that IMO he shouldn't be going to the EU negotiators, it was you that expanded that into defense.

 

[Kellfire]

Because I released that you were not attacking my post as such but trying to score points. I refer you to that post where you suggested anyone who voted leave deserved to be punished and how you are trying to have a handbag fight over it. Grow up matey

Everyone who voted leave will be punished. Sadly so will those of us who voted to remain.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Flypast! Who mentioned a Flypast?

You seem to be getting confused, I only posted that IMO he shouldn't be going to the EU negotiators, it was you that expanded that into defense.

No you didn’t, read your first response to me last night,

Fine sentiments but hardly appropriate in this case. What exactly has people giving their lives for their country got to do with him, he has made a career of cosying up to enemies of our country. I also cant see how he should be talking to the EU negotiators on our behalf, all he can be doing is advising them how to screw us.

 

[SocketRocket]

No you didn’t, read your first response to me last night,

That was in response to you expanding the debate into defense.

 

[SocketRocket]

Everyone who voted leave will be punished. Sadly so will those of us who voted to remain.

Will that be before or after the sky falls on us.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

That was in response to you expanding the debate into defense.

Nice try, I was addressing all the points in Oxymorons post, I didn’t realise I had to seek your approval for my responses!

 

[Kellfire]

Will that be before or after the sky falls on us.

Deep.

 

[SocketRocket]

Deep.

Shallow

 

[Hobbit]

Deep.

Shallow

Wrong thread... "word of the day"

 

[Doon frae Troon]

I have been told by a EU expert that Turkey are offering a free trade deal with the UK but insist on free movement.
Brilliant.
Best offer yet.

BTW this expert has never shown any deep previous interest in politics before Brexit and is starting to get very angry shouty and sweary [most unlike her] the nearer 29th of March comes

 

[Foxholer]

I have been told by a EU expert that Turkey are offering a free trade deal with the UK but insist on free movement.
Brilliant.
Best offer yet.

BTW this expert has never shown any deep previous interest in politics before Brexit and is starting to get very angry shouty and sweary [most unlike her] the nearer 29th of March comes

Time you told her to go cook your breakfast then!