chrisd
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I would appear that their main reason for forming the party is to fight the May EU elections if leaving the EU is delayed
Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!
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I would appear that their main reason for forming the party is to fight the May EU elections if leaving the EU is delayed
Doon frae Troon
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The last I heard Farage was threatening to leave this new far right extremist party because of their anti Muslim leadership comments.
Speaking of new political parties....Labour have just created one...at last.
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Old Skier
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First casualties seem to be the Labour Party. Things going to get really interesting now with Momentum.
Doon frae Troon
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Wonder if it will be called New New Labour
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New Improved Labour ?
Why can't they just join the Lib Dems? That's what happended last time in early 80s with SDP.
Mudball
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This just played into TMays hands.... now she is the strongest among the weakest... easy to get her deal thru parliament... Brexit here we come (finally)
Beezerk
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How powerful could the new new Labour Party be? Apologies I’m not a political type so this is a genuine question.
My point is, new new labour are also and anti brexit party from what I’ve read so is it possible them for them to somehow scupper brexit?
Old Skier
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Political suicide. Lib Dems still suffering from joining Cameron's coalition.
Doon frae Troon
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If they join the left centralist group of Lib Dem, Plaid, SNP, Greens it brings the group Westminster votes up to over 50.
It could make all the difference
Those 7 can now vote however they like. No longer tied to a whips decision. It is how MP's should really be when you think about it.
Interesting that at this point they are not starting a new party, they are going independent. I wonder if they are waiting to see who else jumps ship.
Old Skier
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Twitter Momentum and Owen Jones site going mad slagging them off. Good strategy, keep abusing them and see if they can get the non Marxist to jump ship as well. Labour obviously not wanting to be in government again, oh hang on, they will try and reduce the voting age to 14.
woody69
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Project fear - https://news.sky.com/story/honda-to-stun-ministers-with-closure-of-swindon-factory-11641154
And those Tory Anglo - Japanese relations were looking so promising;
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...talks-high-handed-letter-liam-fox-jeremy-hunt
'Reports that Hunt and Fox’s letter had irritated Japan are adding to scepticism over assurances made by Brexiters that Britain would ease its way into lucrative free trade deals once it leaves the EU.
To add to Britain’s frustration, Japan has reportedly ruled out simply replicating the terms of a Japan-EU trade agreement that went into effect at the start of this month but which will be unavailable to the UK after Brexit. Instead, it will seek tougher concessions from Britain than it secured from the EU.
Japanese firms, which together employ about 140,000 people in the UK, have made no secret of their alarm at the prospect that Britain will crash out of the EU without a deal.
And those Tory Anglo - Japanese relations were looking so promising;
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...talks-high-handed-letter-liam-fox-jeremy-hunt
'Reports that Hunt and Fox’s letter had irritated Japan are adding to scepticism over assurances made by Brexiters that Britain would ease its way into lucrative free trade deals once it leaves the EU.
To add to Britain’s frustration, Japan has reportedly ruled out simply replicating the terms of a Japan-EU trade agreement that went into effect at the start of this month but which will be unavailable to the UK after Brexit. Instead, it will seek tougher concessions from Britain than it secured from the EU.
Japanese firms, which together employ about 140,000 people in the UK, have made no secret of their alarm at the prospect that Britain will crash out of the EU without a deal.
A little like Nissan and the X-Trail though, the talk is that Honda are moving production to Japan, not moving it to another EU country. It is bad news for the UK full stop, let's not anyone pretend otherwise, and Brexit may have accelerated the decision but if Brexit was truly the key then would Honda not have moved it's factory into another EU country?
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Hasn't happended yet but Sky must be confident the story is true to stick their necks out like that.
Moving manufacturing operations to Japan as they can trade freely with EU from Japan.
This story can be spun in different ways by Leavers and Remainers and it already is being in the usual split country fashion.
Fault of Brexit uncertainty or just Project Fear (sales were struggling and they were leaving anyway to gives jobs to Japanese workers instead)?
Moving manufacturing operations to Japan as they can trade freely with EU from Japan.
This story can be spun in different ways by Leavers and Remainers and it already is being in the usual split country fashion.
Fault of Brexit uncertainty or just Project Fear (sales were struggling and they were leaving anyway to gives jobs to Japanese workers instead)?
Doon frae Troon
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Things seem to be going spiffingly well for the UK in China and Japan thanks to those two Tory political giants Grayling and Williamson
chrisd
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Doesnt matter really, another 3500 jobless men and women, though like Sunderland, both are areas that voted leave.
Oh it's bad news, no question. Don't forget though, in both cases the areas chose to leave but it doesn't mean the employees did. They may have done 😱 but that can't be guaranteed.
I grew up in the constituency of Neil Hamilton. That doesn't make me responsible for him getting elected, sadly they only let me vote once each election.
harpo_72
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Look on the bright side ... less Japanese cars being built by the English poorly, we can now buy expensive well built ones. 🙄
harpo_72
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Isn’t it ironic ? And all the parasitic businesses that fed off those wages will start to be impacted. But this has nothing to do with Brexit, to say so would be project fear. This is about a global recession and Honda and Nissan failing to offer the customer what they wanted.
But it must be a bad global recession if these businesses are retracting, as they have been in the UK for 20 yrs + . Not to worry though, we won’t be affected we will have our sovereignty and none of those EU lettuces.
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