Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!

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Respectfully, I'd have to disagree with the sentiment. In my opinion, we are weakening our position as a global player. We will be entering negotiations as a minority player. As evidenced by some of the demands coming from American negotiators.

My experience of trade negotiations are about zip... However, I'd be seeking to take advantage of being a single entity rather than merely being on the periphery of a supposedly co-operative... What's good for Germany/France isn't necessarily good for the UK...
 
My experience of trade negotiations are about zip... However, I'd be seeking to take advantage of being a single entity rather than merely being on the periphery of a supposedly co-operative... What's good for Germany/France isn't necessarily good for the UK...
Well I watched The Star Wars Phantom Menace film so I'm virtually an expert, and being a small single entity is possibly not as good as being part of a large negotiating bloc.
 
I have. I have gone from thinking that perhaps we could survive Brexit to knowing that it will be dreadful.

So over what period should the impact of leaving the EU be measured ?

One year, 3 years, 5 years, 10 years .....

The answer of course will be whatever suits the respective leave / remain perspective.
 
WE can't even negotiate WITH the EU.....
So we should just walk away
While not actually advocating it...perhaps that's an argument for being a member of the EU!

Oh. And (while also not advocating it, but conversely) in just under 7 weeks, there won't be any need to 'negotiate with the EU'!

There could be a considerable amount of 'brinkmanship' about to have an effect!
 
Respectfully, I'd have to disagree with the sentiment. In my opinion, we are weakening our position as a global player. We will be entering negotiations as a minority player. As evidenced by some of the demands coming from American negotiators.
I think the term 'global player' has been something of an illusion in many of the areas for quite some time!

And (simply) being part of the EU, as opposed to being a separate entity, quite possibly weakens any 'global player' aspirations - certainly in terms of certain areas of trade.

<Philosophy mode> Personally, I'd sooner UK was a 'better' country than a 'global player'. Though it's all about defining what those terms really mean - and their implications! </Philosophy Mode>
 
interesting to see that the Ferry contract has been cancelled. Raised on here as a ridiculous situation, but defended quite stoutly by some.

The ferry contract has been cancelled because the local labour council has pulled funding for the port. Its always worth looking at the detail before jumping in.
 
The ferry contract has been cancelled because the local labour council has pulled funding for the port. Its always worth looking at the detail before jumping in.

Iff all else fails, blame Labour councils😁
So it has nothing to do with the company's Irish backers then?

I thought all of this had been carefully vetted before contract was awarded....
 
Should you not be in the pub preparing for today's match rather than trudging back through this thread 😱🍻? Blimey, 120 pages in 2 months.

It only took me 30 secs to find it in my posts.

Off the ale pretty much these days so i'll be heading up the ground about 2:15pm 👍
 
I'm not blaming anyone. I'm saying that we'll be entering negotiations as a minor player. I certainly don't expect any charity. If I was an American negotiator I'd try and gain every possible advantage.
But Trump loves us and he wants a great trade deal with us, we just have to be in a position to do it. NZ and Australia to name a few have been successful with trade deals, why do you think a country with an economy the size of the UK cant also? Or, do not want it to?
 
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But Trump loves us and he wants a great trade deal with us, we just have to be in a position to do it. NZ and Australia to name a few have been successful with trade deals, why do you think a country with an economy the size of the UK cant also? Or, do not want it to?

Does he really?

I think he just wants to get his grubby mitts on our Valuable assets and he'll do whatever he can to do it.

Vulture.
 
But Trump loves us and he wants a great trade deal with us, we just have to be in a position to do it. NZ and Australia to name a few have been successful with trade deals, why do you think a country with an economy the size of the UK cant also? Or, do not want it to?
Are you taking the pish now?
 
Does he really?

I think he just wants to get his grubby mitts on our Valuable assets and he'll do whatever he can to do it.

Vulture.
You are entitled to that opinion although I don't know what you have to back it up, what exactly has he done to us. I would be much more concerned about what the EU wants to do to our Valuable assets with their grubby little mitts.
 
You are entitled to that opinion although I don't know what you have to back it up, what exactly has he done to us. I would be much more concerned about what the EU wants to do to our Valuable assets with their grubby little mitts.

Nothing yet, but given his previous i’d tread very carefully before jumping into agreements with him.

I don’t know what the EU have got to do with my post 🙄
 
You are entitled to that opinion although I don't know what you have to back it up, what exactly has he done to us. I would be much more concerned about what the EU wants to do to our Valuable assets with their grubby little mitts.

Google. First result.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-uk-us-trade-deal-nhs-trump-theresa-may-alex-de-ruyter-a8390021.html?amp

2nd result.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....s-use-us-trade-talks-force-nhs-pay-drugs/amp/

There's plenty more.
 
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