Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!

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here is an interesting interview of Lord Michael Heseltine on Brexit... He may not be on everyones Christmas Card list, but makes some good points.


Cant wait for the usual suspects to come around and say he is just another rich fella talking down this country..
 
here is an interesting interview of Lord Michael Heseltine on Brexit... He may not be on everyones Christmas Card list, but makes some good points.


Cant wait for the usual suspects to come around and say he is just another rich fella talking down this country..
Didnt know I was a suspect but Hey Ho if thats your way of describing a forum member then the worlds your oyster.

Are you aware of how much Hezzer gets in EU farming subsidies?
 
here is an interesting interview of Lord Michael Heseltine on Brexit... He may not be on everyones Christmas Card list, but makes some good points.


Cant wait for the usual suspects to come around and say he is just another rich fella talking down this country..

Yeah, well he would say that. He's just another rich fella talking down this country. (y)
 
No, I couldn't agree on a remuneration package for the day, so I threw a telly through the window, told my German boss that he should be grateful that he's allowed in the country as we won 2 world wars and one World Cup. Upset all our future customers by trying to appease a colleague who's only interested in his redundancy package. Then, in a fit of complete lack of self awareness, I tried to negotiate a pay rise before being sacked and losing my house.

Still, it'll all be better in 20 years eh? 😉
That's the spirit.
 
Nah I’m very social. Now since taking your leave for a few days from this thread this morning you have returned twice already... are you suffering from Columbo syndrome?

No, but it is rude not to reply to a direct question. So I'm happy to do that. I'm avoiding making more comments on the current state of Brexit as I'm off tomorrow, the golf course is calling, followed by a nice meal with some friends. I have a rather nice bottle of red in the kitchen, ready to be enjoyed whilst listening to some great music. So as you can see, I'm just a bit too busy to keep responding to the usual posters.
But don't worry, it'll be Monday soon enough 👍👍😉
 
No, I couldn't agree on a remuneration package for the day, so I threw a telly through the window, told my German boss that he should be grateful that he's allowed in the country as we won 2 world wars and one World Cup. Upset all our future customers by trying to appease a colleague who's only interested in his redundancy package. Then, in a fit of complete lack of self awareness, I tried to negotiate a pay rise before being sacked and losing my house.

Still, it'll all be better in 20 years eh? 😉
I told you it would have been easier to just leave. 😀
 
So now the “peace process” is at risk? What is about leaving the EU that makes two religious factions want to start fighting each other again ? It appears to be a very fragile “peace”.

The NI province seems to cause a disproportionate amount of problems, i.e. the “peace process”, a soft / hard border, no internal government, political and religious factions almost at extremes.

Wouldn’t the whole Brexit business be pretty much signed and delivered if NI just didn’t exist....so, on the basis that NI voted to remain in the EU, how about the Republic and NI merge ?
Reunification referendum next please.
 
I think you'll find there is still a large part of the population still wanting to stay under the umbrella of the UK.

Anyone think the Brexit shambles has anything to do with the so called peace process is living in another dimension.
 
So now the “peace process” is at risk? What is about leaving the EU that makes two religious factions want to start fighting each other again ? It appears to be a very fragile “peace”.

The NI province seems to cause a disproportionate amount of problems, i.e. the “peace process”, a soft / hard border, no internal government, political and religious factions almost at extremes.

Wouldn’t the whole Brexit business be pretty much signed and delivered if NI just didn’t exist....so, on the basis that NI voted to remain in the EU, how about the Republic and NI merge ?
Reunification referendum next please.

Really good idea showing an excellent grasp of Irish history there. As a proud Englishman, whilst we are at it we could maybe get rid of Scotland? As lets face it, apart from Islay single malt whisky and the odd half decent golf course, what's the point? And seeing as we've got rid of N Ireland and Scotland then don't see much point on holding onto Wales as well. I mean yes Rhossili Bay is lovely and Tom Jones has a nice voice but do they offer much else? Then we would have taken back control, got rid of the baggage and can look forward to a brave new future of wall to wall Greggs and Poundlands. And blue passports.
 
Really good idea showing an excellent grasp of Irish history there. As a proud Englishman, whilst we are at it we could maybe get rid of Scotland? As lets face it, apart from Islay single malt whisky and the odd half decent golf course, what's the point? And seeing as we've got rid of N Ireland and Scotland then don't see much point on holding onto Wales as well. I mean yes Rhossili Bay is lovely and Tom Jones has a nice voice but do they offer much else? Then we would have taken back control, got rid of the baggage and can look forward to a brave new future of wall to wall Greggs and Poundlands. And blue passports.
Interesting scenario HK and I know you are being sarcastic, but if the Scottish Independence Referendum has gone the other way, the UK (without Scotland) leaving the EU might well have happened and the vote to leave would have enjoyed a bigger majority.
 
I think you'll find there is still a large part of the population still wanting to stay under the umbrella of the UK.

Anyone think the Brexit shambles has anything to do with the so called peace process is living in another dimension.

Strong statement.
So are you saying the peace process is just being used as a bargaining or stalling tool by remainers and the EU/Eire to frustrate Brexit? That's depite those with nothing to gain from Brexit but had years of influential invovlement with the Good Friday Agreement like Americans Bill Clinton or George Mitchell, saying the issues are linked?
 
Really good idea showing an excellent grasp of Irish history there. As a proud Englishman, whilst we are at it we could maybe get rid of Scotland? As lets face it, apart from Islay single malt whisky and the odd half decent golf course, what's the point? And seeing as we've got rid of N Ireland and Scotland then don't see much point on holding onto Wales as well. I mean yes Rhossili Bay is lovely and Tom Jones has a nice voice but do they offer much else? Then we would have taken back control, got rid of the baggage and can look forward to a brave new future of wall to wall Greggs and Poundlands. And blue passports.
Very good, you’re not a politician are you by any chance? It’s just that your reply doesn’t address any of the points in the original post, you have totally ignored them and diverted the subject onto what you want to talk about. And in a cheap sarcastic way.
 
Really good idea showing an excellent grasp of Irish history there. As a proud Englishman, whilst we are at it we could maybe get rid of Scotland? As lets face it, apart from Islay single malt whisky and the odd half decent golf course, what's the point? And seeing as we've got rid of N Ireland and Scotland then don't see much point on holding onto Wales as well. I mean yes Rhossili Bay is lovely and Tom Jones has a nice voice but do they offer much else? Then we would have taken back control, got rid of the baggage and can look forward to a brave new future of wall to wall Greggs and Poundlands. And blue passports.
Why do you have to be such a patronising, sarcastic prig? Are you like this with people you deal with face to face, You have told us you are the chair of school Goveners, do you speak to pupils parents like this or is it reserved for this place?
 
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Maybe he's messing about.... if you want worse, much worse come to my golf club (in Wales) this weekend wearing an England shirt! :-)

Loving the Hesletine reference above... his famous quote - "I look foward to the day when Westminster is merely a minor chamber of the EU." At least he's honest. A traitorous wally, but an honest one... and he isnt fibbing about lettuces! :-)
 
Strong statement.
So are you saying the peace process is just being used as a bargaining or stalling tool by remainers and the EU/Eire to frustrate Brexit? That's depite those with nothing to gain from Brexit but had years of influential invovlement with the Good Friday Agreement like Americans Bill Clinton or George Mitchell, saying the issues are linked?

Are you saying that if we remain in the EU there will be no further terrorist incidents in NI. Seeing has they have been a nearly a weekly occurrence since the Good Friday Agreement I in my opinion obviously cannot see where Brexit comes into this and as it's a politie forum I'll reserve any comment on the great Bill Clinton, George Mitchell and American involvement in NI.
 
Why do you have to be such a patronising, sarcastic prig? Are you like this with people you deal with face to face, You have told us you are the chair of school Goveners, do you speak to pupils parents like this or is it reserved for this place?

Cause it winds up people who take things way too seriously?
 
Interesting scenario HK and I know you are being sarcastic, but if the Scottish Independence Referendum has gone the other way, the UK (without Scotland) leaving the EU might well have happened and the vote to leave would have enjoyed a bigger majority.
Naw an independent Scotland in the EU would have blocked it for the banter.:cry:
 
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