Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!

[harpo_72]

Maybe worth a look?

That was just a request to stall on no deal ...

 

[chrisd]

That was just a request to stall on no deal ...

It was a way out

 

[harpo_72]

It was a way out

Lost his commitment... back pedal billy

 

[Tashyboy]

I don't see Portugal in any sort of a rush to give Madeira to Morocco either.

Or to give Hawaii back its independence. 👍

 

[Tashyboy]

The BBC also did a piece 2 or 3 months back about freight trains crossing from Russia into Estonia. Each of the containers had some sort of sensor/RFID and as they crossed the border they went through what looked like a hoop. Elec declaration had already been done. The RFID was referenced to the declaration that showed what was in the container. Its that simple.

No doubt some supercilious, sarcastic sod will come on a poo poo the idea that something that is already being used very successfully is only "an idea that hasn't been evaluated yet."

Strange that when I was working out of the Stockholm office I had no problems getting engineers and parts backwards and forwards into Norway on an almost daily basis... but hey, some of us who've experienced it on a daily basis know nothing.

Hobbit if we are not able to track shipment loads as some have suggested. Then why are we reading stories like this.😉
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47046979

 

[User62651]

Not surprised...

I drive from Spain into Portugal, there isn’t even a barrier.....
I drive from Spain into Gib. Miles of queues and aggro...

...ah, the EU. Pay them billions and they do what they like.

What strange logic.
The British are choosing to make the crossing difficult if you're having trouble going in surely, not the EU or Spain?
Also Gibraltarians voted 98% remain so EU deosn't appear to be the evil empire to them.

 

[SocketRocket]

What strange logic.
The British are choosing to make the crossing difficult if you're having trouble going in surely, not the EU or Spain?
Also Gibraltarians voted 98% remain so EU deosn't appear to be the evil empire to them.

Do you honestly think its the British (And I assume that includes you) making the crossing into Gib difficult?

Also, how do you think a vote to leave the UK would result in Gibraltar ?

 

[User62651]

Do you honestly think its the British (And I assume that includes you) making the crossing into Gib difficult?

Also, how do you think a vote to leave the UK would result in Gibraltar ?

Just looked at the live feed and vehicles are flowing along nicely, perhaps it's just a road infrastructure issue or bottleneck at peak times into a smallish area, not uncommon?
Again 98%, explain that away.

 

[chrisd]

Also Gibraltarians voted 98% remain so EU deosn't appear to be the evil empire to them.

They could see the demands from Spain escalating if the vote was to leave, they were looking after their best interests

 

[SocketRocket]

Again 98%, explain that away.

This does it.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Gibraltar_sovereignty_referendum

 

[User62651]

They could see the demands from Spain escalating if the vote was to leave, they were looking after their best interests

If only we were too.
Oh well.

 

[chrisd]

If only we were too.
Oh well.

Oh we were, most definitely

 

[User62651]

Oh we were, most definitely

Well who knows but hey, we've gone full circle right back at the start again......

 

[Foxholer]

Just looked at the live feed and vehicles are flowing along nicely, perhaps it's just a road infrastructure issue or bottleneck at peak times into a smallish area, not uncommon?
Again 98%, explain that away.

Slightly picky, but....Perhaps easier to explain the 96% (95.91) that was the real number!

The 98% (almost 99%) was for a different referendum!

 

[harpo_72]

Oh we were, most definitely

Not really, don’t think you considered the economic growth or that we may have restarted an Irish problem.
Pretty selfish really

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Not really, don’t think you considered the economic growth or that we may have restarted an Irish problem.
Pretty selfish really

Careful
An MP warned about this in the Commons last week and quite a few very badly behaved Tory MP's started yelling IRA sympathiser at him.

 

[chrisd]

Not really, don’t think you considered the economic growth or that we may have restarted an Irish problem.
Pretty selfish really

I dont agree on either point

 

[Slime]

Not really, don’t think you considered the economic growth or that we may have restarted an Irish problem.
Pretty selfish really

I didn't even consider how much it might piss you off .................................. how remiss of me!

 

[Lord Tyrion]

During this whole issue it has appalled me at the near acceptance of a return to violence if borders return to Ireland. This is 2019, it's supposed to be a modern, civilised country. I know the history but this would not be accepted so casually anywhere else in the UK. I find it incredibly sad.

 

[SocketRocket]

Not really, don’t think you considered the economic growth or that we may have restarted an Irish problem.
Pretty selfish really

Economic growth in the EU is looking rather shakey right now, looks like many are slipping into recession now they have stopped quantitative easing which has been giving a false impression of growth . Might be a good time to leave.

I can't remember the EU being a signatory to the good Friday agreement, is it anything to do with them? At the moment it seems their interference is muddying the waters.