Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!

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Technically Company money is not Shareholders money where the company is incorporated. The Company and Shareholders are seen as two separate entities.
A director’s main duty is to maximise shareholder funds.
If you wind a company up, after paying off the creditors, the money goes to the shareholders.
 
....and a shareholder is free to buy or sell their shares.... I wasnt aware of that facility with my tax money! (but tell me where to sign!!) :D

...so the analogy is way off
All I said was that a lot of company accounts are dodgy.
Didn’t say it was right or wrong. I’ll let others decide that!
Unfortunately those perpetually defensive of the Brexit cause assumed I was defending the EU.
 
A director’s main duty is to maximise shareholder funds.
If you wind a company up, after paying off the creditors, the money goes to the shareholders.
My comment was aimed at yours where you said Company money is not the companies but the shareholders. Cash at hand and in the bank of an incorporated company does not belong to the shareholders, it belongs to the company. Shareholders can be paid a dividend or can sell their shares but that does not detract they do not own the companies money. You are correct that if the company is wound up then any surplus money after closing expenses would be given to the shareholders.
 
Philippe Lamberts MEP has agreed with Tusk said 'No' and is also reportedly saying that EU is now in favour of a 'No Deal', because they won't agree to changes to the WA.

IF the EU does indeed push UK over the limit then won't this require border controls in Ireland ? I suspect this might be brinkmanship to force the UK to buckle under from fear of the NI peace process. This will go down to the wire.

Might be an idea if the EU and UK started 'trade' talks now then a protocol on an agreement for the future would obviate the 'back stop' making it redundant.

Mind you the EU has form in speaking with forked tongues as anyone who has studied the mixed messages that came from Brussels during the Greek, Italian and Spanish debt 'negotiations'.
 
Can hardly blame the EU. Hardly going to tear up two and a half years of negotiation, which was signed off by our PM (who also decided to spend a few months having an election in the midst of it) only for the PM to come back 60 days from B-day and say it's not what she wanted after all. What a state.
 
The UK should give the SNP a vote NOW to let them decide again if they wish to stay in the EU or UK. A put up or shut the flip up vote. I'm sick to death of listening to them whining on about it all. Give them the vote again. Only this time the vote should say

Choose one or the other you cannot have both

A. EU
B. UK

That'll sort them out.
 
Tory MP's acting as a baying mob to stop the leader of the third largest party at Westminster from speaking.
Home of Democracy I don't think so.:(

May prattling on about a Scottish Border blissfully unaware that many Scots would be happy with a border if it meant we remained in the EU.
 
Tory MP's acting as a baying mob to stop the leader of the third largest party at Westminster from speaking.
Home of Democracy I don't think so.:(

May prattling on about a Scottish Border blissfully unaware that many Scots would be happy with a border if it meant we remained in the EU.

It was for his own good - it was disgraceful that he tried to bring in the N Ireland peace process to score points

And democracy was shown when the SNP amendment was soundly beaten. Your chips get bigger

Anyway this was a enlightening read - not sure how much is factual

https://thedeceptionscanner.com/uk-eu-brexit-what-brexits-6-ws-reveal-about-the-british-democracy/
 
Tory MP's acting as a baying mob to stop the leader of the third largest party at Westminster from speaking.
Home of Democracy I don't think so.:(

May prattling on about a Scottish Border blissfully unaware that many Scots would be happy with a border if it meant we remained in the EU.

You might be careful what you wish for. The constant whinging by Scotland is wearing thin: not everything is the fault of the English.

I watched your man from the SNP and concluded that there would nothing that would be satisfactory and stem his childish, vitriolic rant.
 
You might be careful what you wish for. The constant whinging by Scotland is wearing thin: not everything is the fault of the English.

I watched your man from the SNP and concluded that there would nothing that would be satisfactory and stem his childish, vitriolic rant.

I want to be part of an Independent Scotland within the EU.
I would consider that a vast improvement to the incoming UK hard Brexit.

Funny how it is whinging when you relate to the Scots but 'FREEDOM' for UKOK Brexiteers.
 
Kipling's 6Ws are still (and will always be) relevant!

However, interpretation of, and emphasis applied to, the answers mean that different opinions can either be formed or bolstered!

Oh and while I'm being a bit philosophical.....
I am sick and tired of posters declaring how various activity are/would be 'undemocratic'! Describing legitimate activity in this way is absolute twaddle! It may not be 'right and proper', but unless it's illegal/against rules, then it's 'democratic' - at least in the version of 'democracy' that's relevant!

The UK has a slightly different version of Democracy to that of other countries (and/or the EU) and, indeed, significantly different version to other countries that might declare that they are 'democratic'. This entire issue has highlighted both the strengths and weaknesses of UK's version of Democracy, but I haven't noted any really important faults - that weren't obvious already!
 
I want to be part of an Independent Scotland within the EU.
I would consider that a vast improvement to the incoming UK hard Brexit.

Funny how it is whinging when you relate to the Scots but 'FREEDOM' for UKOK Brexiteers.


Your country had a vote to try and achieve the first stage of your wishes and your country voted against your wishes - do you not respect those wishes ?

And the second part is irrelevant because the first part didn’t happen. And I also doubt that Scotland would be welcomed in the EU due to them being unable to be a Net contributor- would take out more than they put in
 
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