Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!

[harpo_72]

You dont seem to understand much about EU grants. The EU dont send a man around the town hall with a fat brown envelope stuffed with spondulas saying 'Bonjour Mon amis, ere is some money we would like you to av. Our local authorities have to apply for it and put up around 50% of the funding themselves. You really do say some strange things, you would prefer the gigantic EU political machine to control our own money but dont want local politics involved in how we wish to spend it. Unbelievable!
I have explained the reasons I wish us to leave the EU and what is a benefit in my estimation may well be a liability in yours but the difference between us is I can uderstand this. No matter how many times your questions are answered you just ask them again, its very boring now.

Better post them again because I have only read you belittling others .. and yes I know how the EU hands out their monies thank you very much. I don’t really think you have a clue yourself 🥳

 

[Doon frae Troon]

From Twitter.. so must be true (that’s the joke bit) but still does not filll anyone with confidence..

Seabourne Freight shares the same registered Address, 59 Mansell Street, as the Maritime Law firm Campbell Johnson Clark whose Director is called Mark Bamford, I did two minutes of research, Antony Bamford of JCB is a huge Tory party donor, his brother is called Mark...

Yes my daughter pointed that out a couple of days ago.
Stinks to high heaven.
Mind you she also pointed out that they had to get the company up and running before any government money is paid out.
Give you two guesses how that pans out. I believe the harbour has not been dredged for over 5 years.

The other two foreign ferry companies involved in the deal appear to have been paid up front.
Nice bit of taking back control by a strong and stable government

 

[Hacker Khan]

Could be posted in many threads but I'll stick it in here, interestingly short odds on a few things

https://twitter.com/x/status/1080024092089241600

 

[Tashyboy]

Could be posted in many threads but I'll stick it in here, interestingly short odds on a few things

https://twitter.com/x/status/1080024092089241600

1/10000 that Diane Abbot said happy easter at least 10 times last night. 😁👍

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Don't worry Uncle Albert is in charge of the ferries and Del and Rodney the finances

https://twitter.com/x/status/1079502359833862145

 

[SocketRocket]

Better post them again because I have only read you belittling others .. and yes I know how the EU hands out their monies thank you very much. I don’t really think you have a clue yourself 🥳

looks like you had a cracking new years party 🎉
I could have an intellectual debate with you but it's unfair against an unarmed man.

Happy New Year

 

[drdel]

Could be posted in many threads but I'll stick it in here, interestingly short odds on a few things

https://twitter.com/x/status/1080024092089241600

Betting odds aren't forecasts, just a reflection of the views of those who want to bet on daft stuff to the advantage of the bookies.

 

[Hacker Khan]

Betting odds aren't forecasts, just a reflection of the views of those who want to bet on daft stuff to the advantage of the bookies.

Not sure what your point is as no one claimed they were any kind of in depth forecasting. I thought odds represented the bookies view of the probability of something happening whilst also taking into account the fact that they need to make a profit. So for example in this case there's a higher probability of a new referendum than there is us leaving with no deal according to the bookies. Or there's a higher probability of Corbyn being replaced than becoming PM. If anyone thinks this is not going to happen then feel free to pile in and make a killing. But I'm sure there's a bookie on here who knows this stuff better than I do.

 

[drdel]

Not sure what your point is as no one claimed they were any kind of in depth forecasting. I thought odds represented the bookies view of the probability of something happening whilst also taking into account the fact that they need to make a profit. So for example in this case there's a higher probability of a new referendum than there is us leaving with no deal according to the bookies. Or there's a higher probability of Corbyn being replaced than becoming PM. If anyone thinks this is not going to happen then feel free to pile in and make a killing. But I'm sure there's a bookie on here who knows this stuff better than I do.

So you are using it as a prediction to support your views.

It just means a load of people have bet and the odds have moved accordingly, nothing more.

 

[Hacker Khan]

So you are using it as a prediction to support your views.

It just means a load of people have bet and the odds have moved accordingly, nothing more.

So you are saying that the odds a bookie sets have nothing to do with what the bookies think is the probability of it happening but are totally driven by the number of people that bet on that outcome?

 

[Deleted member 18588]

So you are saying that the odds a bookie sets have nothing to do with what the bookies think is the probability of it happening but are totally driven by the number of people that bet on that outcome?

Basically yes.

That is what is meant by "making a book".

 

[harpo_72]

looks like you had a cracking new years party 🎉
I could have an intellectual debate with you but it's unfair against an unarmed man.

Happy New Year

There you go again ... no answer but only an insult

 

[robinthehood]

There you go again ... no answer but only an insult

Mate give it up . I tried but that's clearly all he has.

 

[harpo_72]

Mate give it up . I tried but that's clearly all he has.

Your right, it’s all they only have.. quoting WTO incorrectly, misunderstanding the economy contributors, manufacturing of goods in this country ... they are all clueless. But sadly all of these are dismissed as scaremongering and never dealt with a reasonable fact based argument.

 

[Hobbit]

Mate give it up . I tried but that's clearly all he has.

Really?

Post #3279.

When you were asked to substantiate your pronouncements you took your bat and ball home. Its all there just before and around post #3279.

At least Harpo has put together some very good arguments. You've given virtually nothing of any substance to the debate, preferring soundbites without substance. But hey, how about another "I'm out of here."

 

[Fade and Die]

Your right, it’s all they only have.. quoting WTO incorrectly, misunderstanding the economy contributors, manufacturing of goods in this country ... they are all clueless. But sadly all of these are dismissed as scaremongering and never dealt with a reasonable fact based argument.

Classic Dunning-Kruger effect right their 👆🤦🏻‍♂️

 

[Hobbit]

Classic Dunning-Kruger effect right their 👆🤦🏻‍♂️

So you think they are the really bright ones, underestimating their own intelligence? If you're gonna throw deep and meaningful assessments in you'll have to qualify them.

Don't forget, Dunning and Kruger tested the whole class...

 

[harpo_72]

Classic Dunning-Kruger effect right their 👆🤦🏻‍♂️

Nice insult ... but your still incapable of an argument.. and I don’t need to make a quote using some jumped up wind bags .. quote a physicist and I might be impressed. 🤣

 

[Fade and Die]

So you think they are the really bright ones, underestimating their own intelligence? If you're gonna throw deep and meaningful assessments in you'll have to qualify them.

Don't forget, Dunning and Kruger tested the whole class...

No I think the other group. 😁

 

[Fade and Die]

Nice insult ... but your still incapable of an argument.. and I don’t need to make a quote using some jumped up wind bags .. quote a physicist and I might be impressed. 🤣

I freely admit I’m not great at making lucid/concise arguments but If you have read Hobbits and Socket Rockets posts on this thread and still don’t think there is a counter argument to your point then there really is no helping you.