Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!

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I would imagine that this is nothing compared to when Hitler's armies were going on their European tour in the late 1930s and our Government of the day we're trying to pursue a policy of appeasement!

Nor in 1962 during the Cuban Missile Crisis when the world stood on the brink of Nuclear war! 😉

All we're trying to do is remove ourselves from the EU. As a Commission official said to me a few months ago "well the UK has never really been truly committed to the idea of more Europe"!! 🤔

After my experiences of working with the European Commission and European Parliament I'm quite happy we're leaving.

I agree. Anyone who supports the EU should be forced to work in Brussels for a couple of months to see how they waste time and money: they would observe, first hand, how the opinions of member states are treated as an irrritant. Citizens are non-existent in their decision making.
 
And anyone who supports parliament should look at their time wasting -- how many hours of debate were there last week for TM only to decide to pull the vote?

Maybe we'd all be better governing ourselves :LOL:
 
I keep hearing the "will of the people", but that was 2.5 yrs ago or are they the only ones who get to say?
In the time this whole farce has gone on, there will be many who have reached voting age, died, emigrated, immigrated or just decided to vote next time. We dont choose Governments one one set of voters many years ago, so why now?
The will of the people from 1975 seemed to last quite a while.
 
Tory whips call a three liner for Mon/Tues/Wed, expecting a no confidence vote perhaps.

BTW Sweep, The SNP are in a coalition with the Greens in Scotland so technically not in power.
If Scotland had an old fashioned FPTP voting system like Westminster then the SNP would be massively in power.
I genuinely didn’t realise that. Why do we never see the leader of the Greens on TV then? Whoever he, she or they are.
 
I genuinely didn’t realise that. Why do we never see the leader of the Greens on TV then? Whoever he, she or they are.
Strangely enough we see him quite a lot.
He walks the line well, pushes his agenda as far as he can go without antagonising the SNP second vote group to badly.

For someone who does not even know about Patrick Harvie and a two year old hung parliament I will take your future comments/knowledge about Scottish politics as being pretty underwhelming.
 
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Strangely enough we see him quite a lot.
He walks the line well, pushes his agenda as far as he can go without antagonising the SNP second vote group to badly.

For someone who does not even know about Patrick Harvie and a two year old hung parliament I will take your future comments/knowledge about Scottish politics as being pretty underwhelming.
Not a lot of difference
All looney lefties.
 
Strangely enough we see him quite a lot.
He walks the line well, pushes his agenda as far as he can go without antagonising the SNP second vote group to badly.

For someone who does not even know about Patrick Harvie and a two year old hung parliament I will take your future comments/knowledge about Scottish politics as being pretty underwhelming.

He sounds as hypocritical as Nicola....he wants a low carbon society but jumps in to bed with the high carbon Nats, she wants independence to jump in to bed with a federal state! 🤔
 
A leave campaign didn’t exactly cover themselves in glory with this


Blocking an ambulance

I don't know the circumstances, and if they did block the passage of the ambulance its inexcusable.

BUT this is an example of why social media can be misleading. Question immediately springs to mind. Was the ambulance for a member of the protest crowd? Not saying it is but its a good example of how fake news can be spread.

I prefer my news to come from reliable sources. Anything else is about as valid has many of our opinions on here.
 
A leave campaign didn’t exactly cover themselves in glory with this


Blocking an ambulance
What are you suggesting? Is it that leave campaigners are numpties that have no care for ambulances. What about the mass rally for Remainers in London recently, I guess they may have made difficulties for the emergency sefvices but lets ignore that.
 
Strangely enough we see him quite a lot.
He walks the line well, pushes his agenda as far as he can go without antagonising the SNP second vote group to badly.

For someone who does not even know about Patrick Harvie and a two year old hung parliament I will take your future comments/knowledge about Scottish politics as being pretty underwhelming.
Cut me some slack. I can’t be an expert on everything like some others on here.
I think you over egg Scottish politics well beyond it’s importance in the UK wide scenario. Apart from the independence stuff that affects us all, no-one else outside Scotland is too fussed. I should imagine you would be quite pleased about that. After all, you indies keep telling us Scotland is nothing to do with us.
As with all politics it can cause some amusement, like the SNP keep saying they can rejoin the EU, keep the pound and the yellow brick road still leads to Edinburgh along with back of the fag packet economics. But as there is a lot going on elsewhere Scottish politics isn’t really high up my list at present nor I suspect many other people’s outside Scotland.
 
Cut me some slack. I can’t be an expert on everything like some others on here.
I think you over egg Scottish politics well beyond it’s importance in the UK wide scenario. Apart from the independence stuff that affects us all, no-one else outside Scotland is too fussed. I should imagine you would be quite pleased about that. After all, you indies keep telling us Scotland is nothing to do with us.
As with all politics it can cause some amusement, like the SNP keep saying they can rejoin the EU, keep the pound and the yellow brick road still leads to Edinburgh along with back of the fag packet economics. But as there is a lot going on elsewhere Scottish politics isn’t really high up my list at present nor I suspect many other people’s outside Scotland.

Even this tends to overstate the importance of Scottish politics to anyone outside Scotland 😁😁
 
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