Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!

[ger147]

No chance Parliament would allow a no deal Brexit to happen, can't imagine we're in any way ready for that.

Parliament can't stop a No Deal unless they either agree a deal or cancel Brexit altogether. The only other possibility is an extension to the 29th March date but that would need the agreement of the EU as well as the UK Parliament.

 

[Taz]

pretty much what DD was saying on QT last night.

 

[HughJars]

https://order-order.com/2018/12/13/sturgeons-brexit-showboating-slammed-supreme-court/

Oh Bob, you can;t be quoting Guido as a serious source surely?

It's already out that Ken MacKintosh has utterly screwed Holyrood on this, by allowing Westminster to re-write laws in the interim to block holyrood's bill. The Supreme Court backed the Lord Advocate.

 

[HughJars]

I hear May gave the "Brexit means Brexit" line to the EU leaders last night... I think we could be in trouble...

I think it was the other way around wasn't it? She made her plea, and one of the leaders clapped back. Sky news version this morning anyway

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Oh Bob, you can;t be quoting Guido as a serious source surely?

It's already out that Ken MacKintosh has utterly screwed Holyrood on this, by allowing Westminster to re-write laws in the interim to block holyrood's bill. The Supreme Court backed the Lord Advocate.

...and put The Queen in a really awkward place, bet she was not too happy about signing off the 'Dodgy Dave' bill of HMG.

 

[Sweep]

Amazing really. Current parties and politicians out of touch with the electorate.
The majority of parties and MP’s in Westminster are remainers but the referendum result was to leave.
The SNP in power in Scotland and yet the result of their referendum was to stay.
It’s not surprising we are in the mess we are really.
I wonder if we have ever been in such a situation before, particularly in such serious circumstances.

 

[Bunkermagnet]

I keep hearing the "will of the people", but that was 2.5 yrs ago or are they the only ones who get to say?
In the time this whole farce has gone on, there will be many who have reached voting age, died, emigrated, immigrated or just decided to vote next time. We dont choose Governments one one set of voters many years ago, so why now?

 

[Deleted member 1418]

I wonder if we have ever been in such a situation before, particularly in such serious circumstances.

I would imagine that this is nothing compared to when Hitler's armies were going on their European tour in the late 1930s and our Government of the day we're trying to pursue a policy of appeasement!

Nor in 1962 during the Cuban Missile Crisis when the world stood on the brink of Nuclear war! 😉

All we're trying to do is remove ourselves from the EU. As a Commission official said to me a few months ago "well the UK has never really been truly committed to the idea of more Europe"!! 🤔

After my experiences of working with the European Commission and European Parliament I'm quite happy we're leaving.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Tory whips call a three liner for Mon/Tues/Wed, expecting a no confidence vote perhaps.

BTW Sweep, The SNP are in a coalition with the Greens in Scotland so technically not in power.
If Scotland had an old fashioned FPTP voting system like Westminster then the SNP would be massively in power.

 

[Bunkermagnet]

Tory whips call a three liner for Mon/Tues/Wed, expecting a no confidence vote perhaps.

BTW Sweep, The SNP are in a coalition with the Greens in Scotland so technically not in power.
If Scotland had an old fashioned FPTP voting system like Westminster then the SNP would be massively in power.

There cant be, as under Tory party rules the leader is protected from that for 1 year.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Should have said 'Vote of no confidence in the government'

 

[IanM]

I would imagine that this is nothing compared to when Hitler's armies were going on their European tour in the late 1930s and our Government of the day we're trying to pursue a policy of appeasement!

Nor in 1962 during the Cuban Missile Crisis when the world stood on the brink of Nuclear war! 😉

All we're trying to do is remove ourselves from the EU. As a Commission official said to me a few months ago "well the UK has never really been truly committed to the idea of more Europe"!! 🤔

After my experiences of working with the European Commission and European Parliament I'm quite happy we're leaving.

...if the Lisbon Treaty was more user friendly... the Referendum vote would have been hugely different!

 

[Doon frae Troon]

EU spokesman.....The EU has two types of countries, small countries and countries who think that they are not small countries.
Brilliant.
Not going well for May in Brussels, looks like a blind Brexit in a few months.
Just about to speak now 13.15.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?sou...562.8....2..0....1..gws-wiz.....0.LQD37xzSw64

I had to look it up

 

[IanM]

EU spokesman.....The EU has two types of countries, small countries and countries who think that they are not small countries.
Brilliant.

What like Germany and France? That's the whole point. The Eurofanatics do not recognise the right of nation states to exist.

 

[IanM]

Euopean Commission just confirmed we will need to pay 7 euros every three years for a permit to visit the EU after Brexit. Funny...we're paying more that that now!

Oh my... quick, I've changed my mind... we need to stay in!!

 

[Dando]

I see Bliar has crawled out from under his rock again saying we MUST have another referendum

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Euopean Commission just confirmed we will need to pay 7 euros every three years for a permit to visit the EU after Brexit. Funny...we're paying more that that now!

???? We don't pay anything now.

It is a form of ESTA (USA) that is being brought in for all non EU citizens visiting EU countries after 2021. We wont be in the EU so we have to pay. (I agree by the way, it is not a reason to cave in. I am guessing this came up in a question and the situation was clarified. No real shock when you read about it)

 

[IanM]

I see Bliar has crawled out from under his rock again saying we MUST have another referendum

Is is obligated to speak up for his pay-masters.... even Kinnock has been dusted off and let out of the Care Home

 

[IanM]

???? We don't pay anything now.

was referring to our subs....

 

[Lord Tyrion]

was referring to our subs....

Ah, that makes sense. Of course we could now be paying subs plus each individual will be paying £7 every 3 years as well