Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!

[Doon frae Troon]

Just for clarity "Your lot" are the Scottish Nationalist Party, a Party who want to be out of the union with the hated English, Just to jump into bed with Europe........I just can't figure that one out!.

The SNP leadership would see Scotland sink just so that they could gloat at beating “The Auld Enemy.” Mrs. Sturgeon and her swivel-eyed acolytes would have ended the 300 years of oppression and tyranny that they like to imagine has been inflicted on the Scottish people. The fact that she will have condemned Scotland to a very uncertain future, either responsible for it’s own financial stability,or as a very small and unwelcome part of the EU won’t matter,they’ll have their victory,and that’s what counts.

As I keep saying, at least an independent Scotland will be part of the decision making process in Europe.
In the UK Scotland, NI and Wales will always be ruled by whichever party England decides to elect.
Looking at the two main political options available at the moment is it no wonder that at least 50% of Scots wish to be an independent country.

As for financial stability, that is a bit rich considering where the right wing decision makers of the Tory party are currently taking us.
As for 'hating' the English, you are way out of touch there fella. It is the pathetic 300 year old Westminster politics system that we hate.

 

[User62651]

Raab's gone, no great loss. Another junior minister too.
Is the dam about to burst on May?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Anyone read the deal and can sum it up ?

Is it going to go through? Is the issue going to keep rumbling on

Will that useless muppet Johnson step up ?

 

[ColchesterFC]

Anyone read the deal and can sum it up ?

Is it going to go through? Is the issue going to keep rumbling on

Will that useless muppet Johnson step up ?

No and no.

No and yes.

He'll probably try and fail.

 

[Deleted member 1418]

Raab's gone, no great loss. Another junior minister too.
Is the dam about to burst on May?

Probably. If 10 Cabinet Ministers were against the deal then pretty much makes her position untenable.

Interesting next few days ahead.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Sign up for the deal then resign the next day, seems to be a trend with Tory ministers.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

I find it slightly bizarre that the Brexit Sec has gone. It was his job to negotiate the deal. He must have known what was coming from TM. If he didn't like it then why did he wait so long?

 

[User62651]

I find it slightly bizarre that the Brexit Sec has gone. It was his job to negotiate the deal. He must have known what was coming from TM. If he didn't like it then why did he wait so long?

He's ambitious, touted as a leadership candidate, was offered a cabinet role and took it, if he hadn't taken it pehaps he'd have missed his only chance to move up in politics. Resigning maybe meant to demonstrate he has principles and is first out of current cabinet which makes him appear stronger than others who may now follow his lead, calculated if risky career move I think.

 

[ger147]

Rabb has resigned, 50/50 shot if May survives the day as he won't be going alone...

 

[jp5]

I find it slightly bizarre that the Brexit Sec has gone. It was his job to negotiate the deal. He must have known what was coming from TM. If he didn't like it then why did he wait so long?

Self interest only. Shameful. He's been the one in charge of the negotiations and suddenly he decides he doesn't like it?

Just imagine how we are looking to the EU right now. An absolute shambles.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Hunt to resign? He sees himself as a Leader of the Tory Party and even as PM. Now that Raab has gone, seriously increasing likelihood of a leadership challenge, Hunt may as well set himself up with Tory party members. As a Remain voter Hunt may consider May's deal to be the best deal May could have negotiated, not the worst as Leave supporters are claiming.

Meanwhile hopefully over the next few weeks we will get much more honesty and clarity over the red herring that a No Deal actually is - it being potentially so catastrophic across the board (as May alluded to yesterday and Raab also stated yesterday and again this morning). And not just economically - where there may in fact be some benefits to be accrued - but nothing that comes close to outweighing the negatives economically and across the board.

 

[User62651]

Self interest only. Shameful. He's been the one in charge of the negotiations and suddenly he decides he doesn't like it?

Just imagine how we are looking to the EU right now. An absolute shambles.

Think Raab was a puppet, Olly Robbins is reportedly still Mr Brexit for PM.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Esther McVey resigns...

 

[User2021]

Sign up for the deal then resign the next day, seems to be a trend with Tory ministers.

Sign up??????

Maybot didn't allow the cabinet to vote on it, as she knew it wouldn't get the backing.

 

[Beezerk]

I was going to say MP's should be ashamed, but they clearly have no shame.
Bunch of self obsessed idiots the lot of them. All of a sudden I've lost interest in this Brexit thing as all it is is a bun fight to see who can get the PM's job.

 

[MegaSteve]

Just imagine how we are looking to the EU right now. An absolute shambles.

'We' are looking good it's Westminster that's a shambles... Politicians failing to deliver the wishes of the electorate... Suppose we ought be used to it by now...

 

[Bunkermagnet]

The whole thing has made us a laughing stock. None of them are really interested in the best thing for the countyy, only their own self interests and dogma.

 

[User62651]

Betting odds on May not lasting beyond end 2018 now 4/6 or 0.66/1. Get in quick.
Bookies not daft.

May toughing it out in commons though.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

McVey gone now.....that's a bonus.....hopefully Mundell and Ruthy next [as they promised]

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Suella Braverman resigns - well that's a big loss to government. The parliamentary under-secretary of state for Exiting the EU. They'll all be gone soon, calling for a better deal no doubt - claiming that there is a better deal to be had and in denial over the potential for catastrophe were we to No Deal