Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!

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Well quite frankly I dont wish to stand for an anthem of an undemocratic organisation full of unelected beaurocrats. I dont feel European, I'm British, we already have an anthem, we dont need another
We don't have to stand for the EU anthem , tbf I don't know what it sounds like. I'm not British, I'm English if asked.
 
Well quite frankly I dont wish to stand for an anthem of an undemocratic organisation full of unelected beaurocrats. I dont feel European, I'm British, we already have an anthem, we dont need another
Er. What 'unelected' beaurocratics are you refering to? Apart from a couple of dozen 'delegates' appointed by member states and about 20k 'civil servants' (cf 400k UK civil servants), all are elected. this 'unelected beaurocrats' description of those at the top of the EU is a highly successful myth!
 
WTF? You contradict yourself within a dozen words!
How do you contradict when you quote that someone says councils got nowt when they actually did. The next sentence i wrote said i disagreed with it ( selling off houses) as-well. Did you “black out” part way through the post.
 
Here's a question for the Labour supporters. Quite frankly I think Corbyn is a grade one that. I and millions of others are desperate for an opposition that can deafeat this shower of *** government we have at the moment. DO YOU THINK CORBYN IS THAT MAN TO DEFEAT THIS GOVERNMENT. IS HE HONESTLY THE BEST THAT LABOUR HAVE.

But after Corbyn, who would you choose? I agree he isn't PM material, and of his acolytes Starmer might one day make a decent politician. But who from any party would you choose? Which party could put a half decent cabinet together?

One thing this last 3 years has shown is that out of over 600 politicians, of which the cream of those parties have reached the top, who is good enough to govern?
 
But after Corbyn, who would you choose? I agree he isn't PM material, and of his acolytes Starmer might one day make a decent politician. But who from any party would you choose? Which party could put a half decent cabinet together?

One thing this last 3 years has shown is that out of over 600 politicians, of which the cream of those parties have reached the top, who is good enough to govern?
And this me good man Hobbit is exactly what i am trying to say. Yet questions re Corbyns credentials always end up with the same old torys are no better response.
 
How do you contradict when you quote that someone says councils got nowt when they actually did. The next sentence i wrote said i disagreed with it ( selling off houses) as-well. Did you “black out” part way through the post.
Doh! Apologies! I simply failed to follow your dodgy written expression!
 
But after Corbyn, who would you choose? I agree he isn't PM material, and of his acolytes Starmer might one day make a decent politician. But who from any party would you choose? Which party could put a half decent cabinet together?

One thing this last 3 years has shown is that out of over 600 politicians, of which the cream of those parties have reached the top, who is good enough to govern?
We need a right wing, socialist, liberal - are there any good ones knocking about?
 
But after Corbyn, who would you choose? I agree he isn't PM material, and of his acolytes Starmer might one day make a decent politician. But who from any party would you choose? Which party could put a half decent cabinet together?

One thing this last 3 years has shown is that out of over 600 politicians, of which the cream of those parties have reached the top, who is good enough to govern?

Brian basically the wrong brother got the job! After his brother stabbed him in the back! Ed Miliband is basically earning money from a charity, but he would make a good opposition leader imo.
 
Brian basically the wrong brother got the job! After his brother stabbed him in the back! Ed Miliband is basically earning money from a charity, but he would make a good opposition leader imo.

I agree, the wrong man got the job, but the Labour Party has evolved since then into something that will take a good while to change. There's a huge Momentum network to dismantle before Ed could make a comeback. And even if he did, who is there of quality to support him? Hilary Benn ++
 
I agree, the wrong man got the job, but the Labour Party has evolved since then into something that will take a good while to change. There's a huge Momentum network to dismantle before Ed could make a comeback. And even if he did, who is there of quality to support him? Hilary Benn ++

All I know Brian is that I voted Tory just because of this, who would really vote for a party where a brother stabbed his brother in the back IMO!
 
So what is your answer ? For the state to control everything ? Take control of the railways, the NHS , build houses owned by the state. So everyone can be equal and nobody can have the chance to make something of themselves. Nobody wants communism

Strange that two of the happiest developed countries seem to be Denmark and Norway who have political systems that seem to be totally different from UK [England] and the USA.
 
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