Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!

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An absolute disgrace. What on earth has the country come to when this is deemed by some to be acceptable. The Mother of Parliaments? Shameful behaviour by a group of utterly shameless individuals egged on by Damien 'Wormtongue' Cummings
 
Bercow weighs in - 'this move represents a constitutional outrage. However it is dressed up it is blindingly obvious that the purpose of prorogation now would be to stop Parliament debating Brexit and performing its duty'

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The parliamentary battle of our age, and of many ages - over how and whether the UK Brexits - begins, with the signal from Downing Street that the Commons will rise some time between 10 and 13 September and will return for a Queen's Speech on 14 October. This will leave MPs...command structure whereas the opposition is disjointed and disunited. It is striking how effectively Johnson and Cummings have prepared the ground. As I mentioned they are confident they have gone through all the important constitutional niceties in preparing to suspend... parliament for a month, prior to laying out their legislative priorities in a Queen's Speech, and they don't believe MPs or the courts will be able to stop or block them.
 
No.10 source on the legality of suspending parliament for a month: “lawyers are absolutely confident the courts cannot interfere with a bog standard Queen’s Speech process. No10 has been extremely careful to do everything by the book in the normal way... “and there’s no precedent for the courts having any locus on this”. Government lawyers believe they are providing no hook for a judicial review, since they are not trying to escape the provisions of the recent Northern Ireland legislation [which forced government... to update MPs on progress to recall the NI executive]. “This process [of proroguing or suspending parliament prior to Queen’s Speech] is ancient, so there is no scope for legislation [to stop it] or judicial review” said source
 
And those who proclaim leave should actually try listening now to some of the utter and ignorant tripe being spouted by Leave voters on LBC. Just try listening dear Leave voters on here and hear what some of your fellow Leave voters think. Absolutely stinks. Desperate. Just listen - because they - dear Leave voter - are your bedfellows.

And they believe in Johnson - the duplicitous, deceitful LIAR.

I will now see if I can calm down ... :)
 
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@BorisJohnson
is saying to Tory MPs and Brexity Labour MPs that there is one shot, just one, to get a negotiated exit, at EU summit on 17-18 October, and that if they block no-deal Brexit in early September that door to a negotiated exit will be nailed shut. Will enough... be persuaded by him? The stakes could not be higher, for all of us
 
Every 'better together' voter in Scotland must now be wondering what happened to the Vow promises in 2014.
Milliband, Clegg, Cameron, big Broon where are they now.
Nicola must be delighted with BJ's latest wheeze.
 
The false outrage from MPs over Boris's is just that, false. If they had upheld the result of the referendum and worked on a constructive solution to leaving this wouldn't have happened. Those screaming loudest are the remainers, strange that.

It appears that remainers only approve of their form of democracy not actual democracy.

BBC resorting to getting foreign experts to tell us all why this is bad.
 
Old Skier said:
The false outrage from MPs over Boris's is just that, false. If they had upheld the result of the referendum and worked on a constructive solution to leaving this wouldn't have happened. Those screaming loudest are the remainers, strange that.

It appears that remainers only approve of their form of democracy not actual democracy.

BBC resorting to getting foreign experts to tell us all why this is bad.
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And is Sky - or are you not watching Sky News - just watch BBC so you can criticise their coverage. But don't worry. The BBC being the BBC they will give the government and Leave side time to put their side of the argument - so just hang on and you'll hear what you want to hear.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
And is Sky - or are you not watching Sky News - just watch BBC so you can criticise their coverage. But don't worry. The BBC being the BBC they will give the government and Leave side time to put their side of the argument - so just hang on and you'll hear what you want to hear.
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Coming from you I find this amongst your more hypercritical posts' crack on.
 
I have read that this will only impact on 4 days of parliament sitting as they are away for so long for holidays, party conference season etc during this period anyway. I don't know if this is true or not. If MP's are that worried, why have the party conferences this year, cancel them.
 
Lord Tyrion said:
I have read that this will only impact on 4 days of parliament sitting as they are away for so long for holidays, party conference season etc during this period anyway. I don't know if this is true or not. If MP's are that worried, why have the party conferences this year, cancel them.
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Oh you cannot cancel the conference season - gives MPs even more days away from Parliament enjoying themselves!! 😉😂

Anyway this will all be forgotten next week when the Ashes resume.......!! 😂😂
 
Coming from a job where, were we confronted with an issue of this magnitude leave would have been cancelled, I find it amazing that MPs are still on holiday. They should be in now sorting out the issue that they should have already sorted out, not posturing and point scoring.

If Brexit has shown nothing else it is how unfit for purpose this shower and the electoral process are.
 
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And those who proclaim leave should actually try listening now to some of the utter and ignorant tripe being spouted by Leave voters on LBC. Just try listening dear Leave voters on here and hear what some of your fellow Leave voters think. Absolutely stinks. Desperate. Just listen - because they - dear Leave voter - are your bedfellows.

And they believe in Johnson - the duplicitous, deceitful LIAR.

I will now see if I can calm down ... :)
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And yet again you tar all 17 million leavers with the same brush based a few extreme examples on a radio show.

Are we to judge all Remain voters on the basis of your continued snide digs and unsubstantiated rants?

You really do bring absolutely nothing of value to this debate.
 
drdel said:
False outrage by those who want to replace the PM to stop a democratic vote passed into law by the HoC by a temporary PM. Their aim is to stop the democratic process and Brexit.

They would cause more time to be lost than the suspension.
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What's false about their outrage? I certainly believe it's genuine!

But so what! They've seemingly been out-manouvered!
 
Blue in Munich said:
Coming from a job where, were we confronted with an issue of this magnitude leave would have been cancelled, I find it amazing that MPs are still on holiday. They should be in now sorting out the issue that they should have already sorted out, not posturing and point scoring.

If Brexit has shown nothing else it is how unfit for purpose this shower and the electoral process are.
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That's been one of my overriding worries about the whole brexit debate, right from the very beginning. Taking control back from the EU and giving it to the UK parliament - they ain't up to the task (either side of the house/debate)
 
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